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I have always wondered what his career here would have looked like had he signed with the wings, too bad as he seemed to be very liked in the wing wheel

It was actually the first game Ive got to see in a while, I usually only get to see the 4min recap. I couldn't believe how many times they gave the puck away, or failed to keep the puck in and how many times they tried to pass 6 times instead of shooting the puck...Holland cant possibly believe this team can make the playoffs can he? At this point Id trade away anything he can that isn't Larkin or AA (and maybe Mantha because I still have faith in the kid).

wow, we look just horrible. Everyone but Larkin and maybe Green played like garbage tonight imo.

There's not a lot you can say about this team that isn't rude. I'll just say there's a lot of suck out there

WOW. Just wow. Luckily I missed the game do to work but the recap was more than embarrassing. This team has so many holes in it that it's actually hard to pick a starting point. The defensive core is atrocious, and as almost everyone has said only Larkin and Mantha (perhaps Andreas too) give any hope upfront. There are no words to describe the disappointment in Tatar and Nyquist, theyre horrendous to say the least. IF Holland continues to sit on his hands here and do absolutely nothing then this Red Wings team is in a lot of trouble and it's sad to see

100% this. Any news on Nyquist? Perhaps for now slide Frk into his spot, at very least put switch him up with Helmmer on line 3 with Nielsen and Abby

This is the way I am looking at it..Hopefully the new barn will help re-energize the group Edit: oh yeah, and fire Blash...please and thank you

Well it's been a while since I have been able to watch the wings for a full game, its been generally a few minutes here and there plus highlights...WOW is all that comes to mind

I won't lie by the end when he went to the bench I probably would have taken my skate off & stabbed him with it.

COME ON NETFLIX

Like everything I guess the more people that become aware of Reddit:NHLstreams the more often they are taken down mid game. This whole past season it was my go to and without a flaw 95% were Youtube streams (the best IMO) but in the last month of the season it seemed that NHL became savvy to it and started shutting them down on the regular. Point still remains that there needs to be a legal way to stream games consistently from where ever we may be.

I don't know, there is something to be said about the consistency & reliability of Danny D. He's easily a pair for the top D or he's keeping the 2nd pair in order. Either way he's certainly an unsung hero on this squad much like his idol was-game in and game out

AND when he played he was not the same player, not even close. Pavs said 2 years until his ankle will be 100%, his ankles are such an important part of how he dangles the pants off people. This past season was a little sad for his last one, coupled with his ailment he was taken down by slashes, trips you name it all season long and most were non calls. You could see the emptiness he had while looking at the ref. Oh well ces't la vie

yeah I must agree that there is no call on this play...Though it's pushing it, moreless as the dude obviously has no grab on his shaft whatsoever (pardon me?!) ....some more size and Bert jr. just might make this squad

I voted better. Holland made some moves and I think he has 1 more to go. For now I'm going to focus on the forwards as other then a top pairing D man our problem is scoring. If you look at who could be the 12 men on the roster the goals should go up this year Zetterberg Nielson Nyquist Tatar Larkin Abdelkader Vanek Mantha Helm Sheahan Anthanassiou Glendening/Miller ......I like the look of this, adding Nielson & Vanek should prove to be very wise moves. A lot still remains to be seen, will a trade lose Tats, Goose, Matha or perhaps all in a blockbuster. Time will tell but I'm more optimistic then last year

These awkward forks in the road of these threads amuses me

I think perhaps since Helm took the "discount" (I do believe he would have gotten more yesterday from one of the teams interested in his services) that Kenny will have Helmer on the trade block-he doesnt have a no trade clause does he? He could fit nicely in a package

Being that Larkin is the future C, and Zetterberg in all honesty is less then 5 years out...Id be giving the A to Dylan Larkin, then the C in a few years.

I would doubt it, I'd hope that Vanek is and Nielson are small nudges to help Tats and Goose score. They alone will not fill that void. I love the Vanek deal, it adds some hope.

In my opinion I would have taken Eric Stall at 3.5, thats what makes Nielson hurt more.

I am very glad we kept him, and a very typical salary too so at least we didn't overpay to retain him...

I couldn't agree more, its the first thing I thought of when I saw the signing...I wont lie though, I all I know about him is the 2016 highlight reel on youtube i just watched. At 32 years old he is certainly on the wrong side of the slope for me.

Well I feel awkward...I LOVE Helm and at this point Im grasping to the devil we know....I know he wont score 20 goals, 15 was a lot for him, but his energy is OFF the charts. The contract is obviously too long by 2 years, but there is a role Helm can fit into as long as they aren't forcing him into our top 6. Pair Helm and AA together for a speedy line 3. I get it's not the perfect contract, but I think calling for Holland to be fired when its 11am on trade deadline day is as crazy as some of you make this contract out to be, perhaps he's setting the table for a trade or three

My one problem is that at the end of the playoffs he commented on his ankle and said it was a 2 year commitment until he gets 100% healthy again...... ......He was not the Dats we know he can be-not even close-and coming off injury early to help a struggling team is nothing new for a star player...what if we trade his contract and after a year in the khl decides to come back?

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