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Well, did we find joy in this season? Was it a close call? Are we filled with happiness or frustration? Nonetheless, the Wings are officially out of the running for playoff contention. Right now, they stand 11th from the bottom, with a 2.5% chance of winning the lottery. Should they intentionally lose the final three games to improve their position in the lottery? Should they send Kasper, Soderblom, and Edvinsson to Grand Rapids to assist in their potential victory? Should they trade the first-round pick to bolster the team in specific areas? Does Steve Yzerman sign more vets or change up and go youth this time? What will Patrick Kane do? Which player(s) get bought out? Waived? Traded? Do they keep the pick and draft another player that'll possibly be up in 3-5 years? It's time to start discussing the off-season! Here are the top 20 prospects according to McKenzie Also of note, Yzerman has 3 draft picks he has to sign this summer, or they become UFA's Liam Dower Nilsson - June 1, 2025 Red Savage - Aug 15,2025 Sam Stange - Aug 15, 2025

In a groundbreaking twist, the 2025 NHL Draft emerges as a pivotal moment in hockey history, featuring an innovative decentralized format that redefines the game. Mark your calendars for June 27th-28th, as the excitement kicks off with the lottery just a month prior, ushering in a new era of selecting the sport’s future stars. Gone are the chaotic arenas pulsing with the thrill of management teams, scouts, and media competing for a glimpse of the next big names. Instead, every one of the 32 franchises will retreat to their own strategy hubs in their home cities, crafting a distinctive atmosphere that allows local fans to connect from afar. A select few elite prospects will grace the Peacock Theater in Los Angeles, creating a more personal gathering under the spotlight. While previous drafts showcased standout talents like Connor Bedard and Macklin Celebrini, 2025 brings an enticing mix of uncertainty and excitement. Scouts find themselves divided, torn between the dynamic play of Matthew Schaefer, reminiscent of Cale Makar, and the strategic prowess of James Hagens. Porter Martone’s powerful presence as a forward generates buzz, while Michael Misa dazzles with his extraordinary goal-scoring skills. The absence of a clear frontrunner adds to the tension, making each selection potentially transformative. This draft is set to underscore not just individual talent but also the strategic maneuvering of teams, particularly with the unique lottery rules at play. With franchises permitted only two lottery wins over five years, the challenge is a thrilling blend of chance and expertise. The unpredictability of this process was highlighted by the 2020 draft when the New York Rangers defied expectations, clinching Alexis Lafreniere despite having the 14th-best odds. As anticipation builds, teams prepare to traverse the unpredictable currents of the draft, aiming to discover the next wave of talent. The 2025 NHL Entry Draft, now in its 63rd chapter, promises to be unforgettable. With a novel format and unmatched depth, it’s gearing up to etch its name in the annals of hockey history. As summer approaches, the thrill radiating from Los Angeles is set to reach an electrifying crescendo, captivating fans and players across the hockey universe. CURRENT LOTTERY TOP 10 ONE ROLL OF THE SIMULATOR CRAIG BUTTON'S TOP 32

Talk here about any movement that may happen, or things you'd like to see. I still maintain The Wings should be in on trying to acquire Cam Fowler. I also think they should be in on acquiring, if indeed Toronto is going to move him, Tim Liljegren.

OFFICIAL 2025 TDL THREAD It's time to s*** or get off The Juck ******* Pott! In my view, the team ought to focus on acquiring players for the future. Notable examples include Dylan Cozens, Bowen Byram, Zac Jones, Morgan Frost and Ryan Lindgren. This approach should be pursued regardless of whether they are contending or not. It is essential to acquire young talent who will contribute to the team for many years to come. While draft picks hold value, Detroit requires immediate impact players in the NHL, rather than enduring yet another cycle of three to five years spent on development. It is imperative to utilize those draft picks for trades. *UPDATED* https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/vancouver-canucks-j-t-miller-will-remain-no-1-on-trade-targets-board-until-hes-traded notably not on the list is Elias Pettersson, who, on one podcast I watched, is basically 1B with Miller. (just to keep this epic quote alive!) (plus I bumped the original thread so we could relive the original text! Page 12)

Los Angeles Kings (26-14-6) vs. Detroit Red Wings (23-21-5) When: Monday, January 27 Time: 7 p.m. ET Where: Little Caesars Arena (Detroit, Mich.) Channel: FanDuel Sports Network Detroit Extra, NHL Network DETROIT -- As the curtain rises on the final act of their brief three-game homestand, game #50 of the season has the Detroit Red Wings preparing for a formidable challenge as they host the Los Angeles Kings on Monday night. Although the Red Wings faced a daunting struggle during their recent road trip, managing to secure only one victory out of four matches, they have undeniably rebounded since their return home. After a significant triumph over the Montreal Canadiens, Detroit, led by a spectacular 28-save shutout from Cam Talbot, took down the Tampa Bay Lightning—merely a week after succumbing to the Bolts in Florida. With another pivotal road swing looming on the horizon, securing victories at home is imperative for a Red Wings team still striving to claw their way back into the playoff race. Heading into Monday night, the Wings currently occupy the seventh position in the Atlantic Division, remaining four points adrift of the final Wild Card spot in the Eastern Conference. On the other hand, the Kings find themselves in a considerably more advantageous position than Detroit. Thanks to the team’s solid defensive structure and stellar performances from key players like goaltender Darcy Kuemper and Anze Kopitar, Los Angeles has managed to hover near the top of the Pacific Division. The Kings currently stand third in the Pacific, trailing the first-place Edmonton Oilers by seven points. This encounter marks the second and final meeting this season between the Wings and Kings, with L.A. victorious in their initial clash in Hollywood back in November. Will the Red Wings seize the moment? The stage is set for an exhilarating showdown! DETROIT RED WINGS TOP 10 LA KINGS TOP 10 RED WINGS 50th (and 51st) GAME(s) HISTORY The 50th game of the 1987-1988 regular season had the Red Wings playing the Toronto Maple Leafs in a Norris Division matchup of bitter rivals! The game ended in a 3-3 tie, but the fisticuffs ran wild in this classic "Fight Night at The Joe!" In a fashion that resembles more recent versions of The Red Wings, they held a 2-0 lead going into the 3rd period, only to be outscored 3-1, with Eddie Olczyk netting the tying goal with 3 seconds left to play in regulation! This was the first game of a classic Norris division Home and Home series on consecutive nights. The following night at Maple Leaf Garden in Toronto, the teams battled to a 5-5 tie. The Red Wings scratched their way to a 3-3 tie when John Chabot "Cha-boom" scored 2 goals in 2 minutes sending the teams into the 2 period break. Then after 2 goals in just over 3 minutes by Steve Chiasson and Steve Yzerman, again, with the Wings were holding a seemingly safe 5-3 lead only to give up 2 unanswered goals by (former Red Wing) Mark Osborne and (future yet brief Red Wing) Wendell Clark. I sure do miss these consecutive night Home and Home series'

Detroit Red Wings (21-21-4) vs. Philadelphia Flyers (21-20-6) When: Tuesday, January 21 Time: 7 p.m. ET Where: Wells Fargo Center (Philadelphia, Pa.) Channel: FanDuel Sports Network Detroit As the Detroit Red Wings prepare to face the Philadelphia Flyers on Tuesday night, the stakes are high for both teams. After a promising start to their four-game road trip, which began with a victory over the reigning Stanley Cup champion Florida Panthers, the Red Wings have hit a rough patch. With back-to-back losses against the Tampa Bay Lightning and Dallas Stars—where they managed to score only two goals—they find themselves hungry for redemption. Currently sitting in seventh place in the Atlantic Division, the Red Wings are five points adrift of the last Wild Card spot in the Eastern Conference. Their recent 4-1 defeat against the Stars not only extended their losing streak against this former rival to ten games but also served as a wake-up call. The team is eager to shift gears and regain momentum before they return home later this week. On the opposite side, the Flyers are in a similar position, but they come into this matchup riding a wave of confidence. With four wins in their last five games, Philadelphia is aiming to solidify its playoff aspirations and climb the standings. Currently, they sit sixth in the Metropolitan Division, just two points ahead of the Red Wings and three points shy of a Wild Card spot. This game marks the third and final meeting of the season between these two competitive squads, with one win apiece thus far. As the tension builds and both teams look to secure crucial points, fans can expect an exciting showdown filled with passion, strategy, and the relentless pursuit of victory. Tune in to watch the action unfold on FanDuel Sports Network Detroit! After a challenging period away from the NHL, Elmer Söderblom is finally making his return, and excitement is brewing in Detroit! The Red Wings have officially recalled the towering 6-foot-8 left winger from their AHL affiliate, the Grand Rapids Griffins, just in time for tonight’s matchup against the Philadelphia Flyers. Fans can catch the action at 7 p.m. on the FanDuel Sports Network. At just 23 years old, Söderblom has demonstrated significant promise during his time with the Griffins this season, racking up five goals and 12 assists over 38 games. His physical presence on the ice has also contributed to a solid plus-4 rating, proving that he can make an impact both offensively and defensively. With a track record featuring 23 goals and 31 assists across 119 games in the AHL, it's clear that Söderblom is ready to re-establish himself at the NHL level. Last season, Söderblom debuted with the Red Wings, showcasing his skill by netting a goal in his very first game against the Montreal Canadiens. Despite the setbacks he faced due to a lower-body injury, which curtailed his momentum early in the season, he managed to score a total of five goals and three assists in his 21 appearances. It’s no wonder the Red Wings were keen to give him another shot—they originally brought him up straight from the Swedish Hockey League after an impressive season with Frolunda. As he steps back onto the ice tonight, fans are eager to see how Söderblom will adapt and integrate into the Red Wings' lineup while contributing to the team's quest for victory on this critical road trip. His blend of size, strength, and skill could prove to be a game-changer as he helps fuel the Red Wings’ playoff aspirations. Welcome back, Elmer! RED WINGS TOP 10 LEADERS FLYERS TOP 10 LEADERS EASTERN CONFERNCE STANDINGS RED WINGS PROBABLE STARTING LINEUP

Hey you Guys! Ottawa Senators (19-17-2) vs. Detroit Red Wings (17-18-4) When: Tuesday, January 7 Time: 7 p.m. ET Where: Little Caesars Arena (Detroit, Mich.) Channel: FanDuel Sports Network. Ah, Hockeytown—where the air is crisp, the engines roar, and the ice glistens like a freshly Zamboni'd parking lot! It’s showtime as the Detroit Red Wings get ready to tango with the Ottawa Senators in what can only be described as the Wild Card Clash of the Titans (or at least two teams desperately trying to avoid the couch come playoff time). Now, let’s talk about the Red Wings. Under the deft guidance of coach Todd McLellan—who clearly has a magic wand hidden under his suit—they’ve turned from zeroes to heroes faster than you can say “Zetterberg.” With four consecutive wins under their belts, including an impressive 4-2 upset over the Winnipeg Jets (the NHL's equivalent of that one kid who always shows up with gluten-free kale chips at a pizza party), the Wings are starting to look like they remember how to play hockey. Their offense is clicking so smoothly that one might think they’ve installed a new Wi-Fi router for better connectivity! Meanwhile, the Senators are navigating through the proverbial minefield of injuries. Losing star goaltender Linus Ullmark is like entering a swim meet without the proper flotation devices—you’re bound to sink! The Sens have been struggling lately, given their snazzy record of just one win in their last five games, including an embarrassing 4-0 shutout against the St. Louis Blues. Ouch! Talk about a slapshot to the ego! As the teams prepare to face off in this passionate rivalry, the stakes are high. The Wings sit tantalizingly close to the last Wild Card spot, just three points shy of the Canadiens, while the Senators are trying to figure out if they need a map or a miracle to reach the playoffs, sitting twelve points behind the formidable Maple Leafs. This isn’t just a game; it’s a chance for one team to gain precious ground while the other tries to shake off the rust of recent misfortunes. Will the Wings continue their hot streak, or will the Senators find a way to muster up a little magic? Buckle up, folks! It’s going to be a wild ride on the ice! PROJECTED DETROIT LINEUP

Detroit Red Wings (10-11-4) vs. Ottawa Senators (10-12-3) When: Thursday, December 5 Time: 7 p.m. ET Where: Canadian Tire Centre (Kanata, Ontario) Channel: Fan Duel Sports Network Detroit Stream: FuboTV (Free Trial), DirecTV Stream As the Detroit Red Wings set their sights on a much-needed victory, they find themselves facing off against the Ottawa Senators in a pivotal matchup that promises to be anything but ordinary. After a frustrating overtime loss against the Boston Bruins—where Lucas Raymond's impressive two-goal performance went unrewarded—the Wings are eager to bounce back and reclaim their footing in the Atlantic Division. The recent trend of leaving points on the board has been troubling for Detroit. Despite flashes of brilliance throughout the season, the Red Wings have struggled to convert opportunities into wins, leaving them 10 points behind the division leaders as we enter early December. With plenty of time left in the season to shift the momentum, the pressure is mounting. Fans are hoping that the team can harness their potential and deliver a stronger performance against their rivals from Ottawa. On the other side of the ice, the Senators are in a similar boat. Once considered contenders in their bid for a playoff spot, Ottawa has grappled with inconsistency that keeps them at the bottom of the Atlantic Division standings. Despite acquiring key players—like goaltender Linus Ullmark—to shore up their lineup, they haven’t been able to churn out the victories necessary to climb back into contention. This matchup presents both teams with an opportunity to spark a turnaround that could reignite their respective postseason dreams. Thursday night’s contest marks the first of four meetings this season between the Senators and the Red Wings. Last year's rivalry saw Ottawa come out on top in three of those encounters, adding an extra layer of urgency and motivation for Detroit to set the record straight. With both teams hungry for points and pride, this battle at Canadian Tire Centre is sure to deliver excitement and intensity on the ice. Fans can follow the action live on FuboTV, as the Red Wings aim to shake off their recent setbacks and skate toward victory in what promises to be a thrilling clash. Will Detroit finally break through their overtime struggles, or will the Senators continue to assert their dominance? Only time will tell, and the puck is set to drop on a crucial night for both franchises! PROJECTED LINEUP

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8 years $8,075,000 per. figured this might need it's own thread. Next Seider then acquire Fowler.

LW C RW Gustav Nyquist Henrik Zetterberg Tomas Tatar Andreas Athanasiou Dylan Larkin Justin Abdelkader Riley Sheahan Ben Street Anthony Mantha Luke Glendening Tomas Nosek Drew Miller Defensive Pairings Niklas Kronwall Mike Green Dan DeKeyser Nick Jensen Xavier Ouellet Robbie Russo

^me if Red Wings games were donuts

Boston in 5 Panthers in 5 Strangers in 4 Canes in 5 Jets in 7 Stars in 5 Nucks in 6 Oil in 5

Forwards Gustav Nyquist - Henrik Zetterberg - Tomas Tatar Riley Sheahan - Frans Nielsen - Anthony Mantha Andreas Athanasiou - Dylan Larkin - Justin Abdelkader Luke Glendening - Tomas Nosek - Drew Miller Defensive Pairings Dan DeKeyser - Nick Jensen Xavier Ouellet - Mike Green Daniel Renouf - Robbie Russo

We are back baby! Here's the official camp roster with all invitees! Anisimov is an interesting invitee, as is Hutchinson at G. I'm kinda pulling for that guy!

Projected Lines Gustav Nyquist Henrik Zetterberg Tomas Tatar Matt Lorito Dylan Larkin Justin Abdelkader Darren Helm Frans Nielsen Riley Sheahan Ben Street Tomas Nosek Drew Miller Defensive Pairings Dan DeKeyser Nick Jensen Niklas Kronwall Mike Green Xavier Ouellet Robbie Russo thanks to Matt we have the Z emoji, just type : z: (no spaces) or look for it in the emoji list

April Fool! None of the regulars has posted a GDT! Everyone must be watching the Madness that is March (in April).

My reaction when I saw Sheahan, Miller, Glendening and Callahan in instead of Mantha

LW C RW Gustav Nyquist Henrik Zetterberg Tomas Tatar Andreas Athanasiou Frans Nielsen Anthony Mantha Justin Abdelkader Darren Helm Dylan Larkin Drew Miller Riley Sheahan Luke Glendening Defensive Pairings Dan DeKeyser Mike Green Niklas Kronwall Nick Jensen Xavier Ouellet Robbie Russo Mrazek Unconfirmed as the starter per DailyFaceoff.com

Follow the top moments of this last day of festivities at the Joe http://mihockeynow.com/2017/04/the-final-game-at-joe-louis-arena/ Tonight marks Z's 1000th game

Hello everyone. We're putting on another table hockey weekend in Livonia in March. On Friday night, we're on the vintage Coleco games with the flat players. On Saturday, we're playing Stiga, the game that's still made and has 3-D players. More info here: Tournament web page: http://byline302.tripod.com/aboutus/det ... ament.html Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/630587313668777/ ###

Last Colorado visit at the Joe. LW C RW Gustav Nyquist Henrik Zetterberg Tomas Tatar Darren Helm Frans Nielsen Anthony Mantha Andreas Athanasiou Dylan Larkin Justin Abdelkader Luke Glendening Riley Sheahan Drew Miller Defensive Pairings Niklas Kronwall Mike Green Dan DeKeyser Nick Jensen Xavier Ouellet Robbie Russo JImmy Howard Confirmed

LW C RW Gustav Nyquist Henrik Zetterberg Tomas Tatar Andreas Athanasiou Frans Nielsen Anthony Mantha Justin Abdelkader Darren Helm Dylan Larkin Drew Miller Riley Sheahan Luke Glendening Defensive Pairings Dan DeKeyser Mike Green Niklas Kronwall Nick Jensen Xavier Ouellet Robbie Russo

LW C RW Gustav Nyquist Henrik Zetterberg Tomas Tatar Riley Sheahan Frans Nielsen Darren Helm Anthony Mantha Dylan Larkin Justin Abdelkader Andreas Athanasiou Tomas Nosek Drew Miller Defensive Pairings Dan DeKeyser Nick Jensen Niklas Kronwall Mike Green Xavier Ouellet Robbie Russo