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Are we just using this as the trade deadline thread? no salary retained.

The December 1st deadline is for RFAs. I would think it’d be the same for UFAs but I guess not. UFAs do have more freedom than RFAs, of course.. so maybe this rule is also part of that.

Right. I get that, and I don’t blame those with these biases.. there are some moves/contracts i haven’t agreed with either. I’d just like to see a little less overreaction in any fanbase that I consider myself a part of, that’s all.

First, most deadline deals are on deadline day anyway.. put away your torches and pitchforks for now. Second, isn’t “assets that can help this team down the line” exactly what everyone wants? Why the complaints about the Holland quotes if he’s finally trying to rebuild? It doesn’t sound like he’s making excuses in advance.. it sounds like he’s trying to get the best deals he can to help us down the line rather than giving players away on the cheap, just to get rid of them. Don’t let your existing biases read into the quotes wrong.

Yeah Boston is not good at trades

It’d be awesome to get him but OEL would definitely cost at least one of the young guns and one, if not both, first rounders and more. I think RNH would cost too much too. Great players, but I’d much rather get them through free agency (also most likely won’t happen).

pretty good haul for a rental. Hopefully this gets the trade ball rolling. Klefbom is an interesting one.. he had a good year last year and has regressed with most of the Oilers roster this year, but is still only 24. Might be fairly cheap.. especially compared to the rest of the d-men on that list. N-H would be great if we could shed Nielsen or something in the other direction but i think him and most the other names would be more expensive than I’d be comfortable with us giving up at this point. Also, don’t think OEL is going anywhere, unfortunately.

Because Green is injured and there are more sellers than buyers

Well less CAN be more exciting....

About the same, probly? Seems like the Rangers saw more in Smith though... The Smith deal was pretty surprising, obviously in a good way. If we can get that for Ericsson next year, I’d be stoked. If his deal were up this year, maybe we could find a taker looking for depth.

2018. Buckle up baby!

I’d take Toews if they retained half his cap hit but I don’t want to imagine how high that asking price would be

The "JT sweeps" will be trying to luck out and sign him. They're in the playoff hunt and won't be trading their best player. And if they don't re-sign him, trading his negotiating rights this off season likely won't matter because at that point, why wouldn't he just wait until free agency? Unless there's somewhere else he really wants to go. But, I would say he probably re-signs in NY eventually. But yeah, if we luck out and get him (GOD I WISH), there will definitely have to be some cap management to make it work.

Right. I’m ok with trading them but it has to be in a deal that makes sense. Not just a cap dump.

Lots of supply/low demand... Ericsson is a third pairing D-Man and still has a contract past this year. Every team has plenty of third pairing caliber players on their teams; and probably in a lot of playoff team cases, some in the AHL as well. There are plenty of similar options from other teams too, I’m sure. He’s just not a rarity at all.

My guess is they wanted us to retain some of the cap hit and holland actually wanted a third.

Alright yeah, I get the main points you’re trying to convey. A second is just more than we could ever hope for. Maybe a third with retained salary.. but I do think that Glen means more to Kenny, Blashill, etc than we’d ever get back in a trade anyway, so I guess it doesn’t really matter who else wants him. I do disagree with the idea of shedding cap, THEN going after JT. You go after him first and if you get him, then you shed the cap. It could hurt the return a little of course, but I think there are ways to where it wouldn’t result in us completely giving talent away.

Page two hype! Bolded: because his contract isn’t expiring and he’s a third pairing caliber d man? Do you actually wonder why or do you just wish he were generating interest? I definitely wish he were too.. but I doubt he even will next year unless he has a great year out of nowhere. Maybe we’ll get a late pick for him; which is fine.. better than nothing.

I don’t dislike Glendog by any means, but a fourth line center is in no way worth more than a top six winger. If we only got a 3rd for Tatar or Nyquist, I’d be pissed. We don’t need to clear cap. And the only way I could see Glen getting us a 2nd is MAYBE if we retain half his cap hit and send a later pick back the other way. Don’t get me wrong, I would LOVE to get a 2nd for him straight up.. and I’d be damn impressed if we did. But I don’t see that ever happening. I don’t think XO has any trade value. He might even clear waivers.. Also, I agree with wanting an NHL ready prospect or a first for Green but I’m trying to not get my hopes up too high. Hah. Could see it settling to something like what NYR got for Grabner. A lot of fans would probably be disappointed, and I’d like a little more than that, but it wouldn’t surprise me if we got something along those lines.

Damn, almost reached page two huh?

Less than he’ll likely want/get somewhere else.. do like him but we have enough depth wingers. I’d take on his contract the rest of the year to make a deal with Toronto work though.. Green (salary retained) and Glendog for Liljegren and the rest of JVRs year?

List of scouts in the building so we can wildly speculate please LGW!

Much value. Many defense. Wow.

Coreau has dibs ...for now anyway

Four games in and Phaneuf already has as many goals with the kings as he did with the sens this year