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Holland already said the reason he got Q was to replace Stewie....He doesn't have the shut-down capabilities of Stuart, but he's decent defensively, got more offensive talent than Stuart, he's younger, and he's got the snarl that Stuart was losing...For pete sake he comes to a new team and has a poor first 18 games with us and everyone thinks he sucks all of the sudden. He'll be fine. He's solidified himself as an NHL #4 D-man. You are the first person I've ever heard who thinks Andersson is a career AHLer or European club player...All reports suggest you're wrong. And we will be dumping bottom 6ers...we have too...we have way too many roster forwards right now and most are bottom 6ers. But still Andersson probably has one more year of AHL to go. We'll see what Brunner's got, reserving judgement on him for now. He's a bargain so if he doesn't work out oh well, we always have Nyquist too. You know who is overrated though? Fire-power Hudler

Okkkk well you struck through Andersson who has already played NHL games lol and will likely be a legit bottom sixer one day. I also would not have struck out Dekeyster....There's a reason the wings are so interested in him. I'd give Jurco and Jarnkrok more than a 50/50 chance, but not a certainty of course. Other than that though I agree with your assessment. News flash: a big trade for Nash/Ryan/Yandle is not coming. Holland doesn't trade, especially not big splash trades, and especially not lopsided trades. That's all just wishful thinking by everyone on this forum. What did Holland want this offseason anyway? A Scorer = Brunner Scoring depth = Sammy Bottom 6 grit = Tootoo Replacement for Stewie = Quincey A backup goalie = Gustavsson He got everything he wanted except the replacement for Lids (Suter). We have a plethora of forwards, most of which are bottom 6ers, So what's likely going to happen is Holland dumps some 2 or 3 bottom 6 guys for another D-man that can shoulder the Lids load with Kindl and Smith. For pete sake Smith is NHL ready so it could be Holland's plan to give him a full time spot and then make a trade for another D-man at the deadline if need be. Also 1-2 seasons of mediocre play is not a rebuild. That's a retooling/reloading and the wings won't do that by selling...That will be done by bringing up our own young talent. There's no reason to think we will get a Crosby/Ovi/Doughty by selling and tanking either.

we'd pick so late we wouldn't get anyone we even want

Good lord, why is there such an allure to rebuilding? I swear some of you just can't stand not seeing Landeskog's, RNH's, Yakupov's, and other high profile overrated prospects in our system...you'd think the last 20 years of wings drafting would change that, but apparently not. Why in gods name would we rebuild? we have Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Howard, Kronwall, Helm, Franzen, and Filppula...that's 7 high caliber championship players. You don't rebuild when you have assets like that lol. There are teams with wayyyyy less than what we have who aren't rebuilding, why in the hell would we? Oh, and did I also mention we already have an extremely deep pool of prospects? Smith, Nyquist, Jarnkrok, Mrazek, Tatar, Sheahan, Jurco, Sproul, Andersson, Ouellet, Pulkkinen, Tvrdon, Marchenko, Quine, Ferraro, Callahan, Frk, Athanasiou, Mckee, Paterson, Nestrasil, Dekeyster (most likely)....we need to tank to acquire prospects why? Our D is tore up yes....but our forward lines are more than shored up, and our goaltending is shored up...we'll probably end up trading some of our many extra forwards for more d-men so chill man.

yeah yeah, should prolly make em throw Vrbata into that deal too

Straight up truth You are supposed to like your teammates though. To me it was all about them playing together. People tend to forget that players are people. In hockey and other sports I enjoyed myself wayyyyyy more when I was on teams with all my buddies. If I'm going somewhere for 13 years, where Suter goes... and how well I'm going to like whose on the team... will definitely be a large part of my decision. though I will say this.....I was on a team where i loved all my teammates and the coach, we did awful. Then I was on another team where I still liked everyone, just not as much, and I HATED our coach...won 2 championships with that bastard. Babcock will lead us to victory, he is not the problem.

I love how when you read a topic like this on LGW the first like 20 posts are f*** Q, he sucks anyway, what an *******! Then as you read on and people have had some actual time to think before posting the first thing that popped into their head someones like "wait....maybe this was just a business decision by his agent, nothing personal" and then a little after that "wait...this could be good for us actually" LOL Q is probably going to get awarded something like 3.5 to 4 million (only $250,000 - $750,000 more than he would have got without the arb) and it takes him off the offer sheet market for other teams in a league that is desperate for D-men. THIS IS A WIN WIN. He get a little more dough and it stops a poop team from offering him 5 million in an offer sheet. I would be fine losing him on an offer sheet and taking the picks...but now that we lost Lids and Stuart and didnt land Suter we CANNOT afford to lose another d-man period. Arb was probably agreed to be valuable for both sides Abdelkader is a less desirable commodity and is expendable right now. If he filed for arb Holland could either say to him "f*** you we got tootoo, just go to UFA *****" or "we want you, just give us time to dump some forwards before we solidify a contract"....Abby will get fair money from Holland anyway.

You know Holland, just when I think you couldn't possibly be any dumber you go and sign Tootoo....AND COMPLETELY REDEEM YOURSELF

They knew every team was gonna throw ridiculous contracts at them. They must be waiting to see where other UFA's sign and how the teams that want them are going to change for the better or for worse. Plus, the firepower that is Jiri Hudler is in Calgary now so I think that suddenly puts Calgary in the race...

You must be high. Tootoo wrecks shop. Best signing yet. Surprised he didn't get more money actually. Another steal by Holland.

wish i could i neg the fook outta this topic WILL sign Suter AND trade Franzen for Nash thin at left wing? didn't you bring this up yesterday in a thread you started about it and in the live chat? and didn't everyone explain to you that half our RW's can play LW wing too? Sure they might prefer to play RW, but then again I'd PREFER not to read poor topics like this....but i do anyway lol

Don't go breaking your mice, Tootoo wrecks shop

oh yeah 100% agreed with you on that one....he's an agitator it's what he does. At least he'll be doing it for us and he has good locker room presence. Some people are talkin like he's locker room cancer and I don't think he is at all.

K whoever thinks Tootoo is a dirtbag you clearly dont know Tootoo and ur just making assumptions about him I know 2 different people who have met him and both said the guy was the definition of classy and respectful. One was my friends mother (she's a diehard wing/hockey fan, hates the preds) and she described him as one of the nicest and most polite men she has ever met. I don't remember the whole story of how she ran into him, but something like he ended up going way out of his way to get her a signed puck and stuff. He's been her favorite non-wing for a while now. I think all you Tootoo haters are gonna get to know this guy and really like him.

Almost forgot about the backup goalie need: Gustavsson yeah i just remembered we have holland not holmgren....history and experience says they're will be no trade

always a possibility....yet Holland's not that kind of guy. Could happen but I don't expect it. In fact I very much see him standing pat. After all what did he want? a scorer in the top 6: Brunner grit in the bottom 6: Tootoo scoring depth: Sammy replacement for stewie: Quincey replacement for Lids: Suter

why did we originally part with sammy again???

what i feel like....

we need a thread where i can go to just irrationally vent...where i can just spew angry nonsense

and the suter+parise wet dream slips away....

the streakiest player ever. as long as he streaks during the playoff ill live edit: and we have yet to sign one D-man....yayyyyyyyyyy

did that disgusting piece of trash who i never even really wanted on this team anyway pick a team yet?

he should have signed with the Ducks and then requested a trade to a Canadian team

i guess a 1 year contract wouldnt upset me

Idk...he's got some serious concussion issues and his play is rather inconsistent when he is on the ice...depends on the price. What kind of money does everyone think he will get/want?