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Was there nobody competent on the powerplay available at the trade deadline? And by competent I mean, was there nobody willing to put even a single shot on goal during the powerplay available at the trade deadline?

Yeesh. I'll take it.

Yeesh, fluke.

This is literally the first time I've got to comment on the trade, I've been traveling for business and not near my computer.

It's not that I have a problem with Legwand, he's a good player. I just don't like what we gave up, or the fact that he's not a defenseman.

How's our new #1 center look? Ready to lead us to the playoffs?

Well just got back from a business trip. Heard about this, but didn't have access to it. VERY, stupid trade. Why O Why do we never "overpay" for top end players but ALWAYS overpay for depth?

A tiny bit of good news amidst all the trade day speculation. Just came across this gem online.... "The Ilitches' development company gets naming rights in the complex deal to build the arena, but it could be months before a decision is made on what to call the building. 'We have not finalized that," [Christopher] Illitch told WJR's Paul W. Smith. "We refer to it just as we've been referring to it externally, which is the Detroit event center. That's our working name for now. Of course we'll be working through all those details within the coming months.'" While it's no guarantee that this means the new arena won't get a corporate name, it's a really good start.

I'm watching the NJ guys too, they're actually really fair.

Ugh, I hate having to say nice things about Brendan Smith. Atta boy kid!

With passes like that it's hard to see why Brendan Smith leads the defense in turnovers.

He's a young center, and we've got freakishly good young wingers coming along. I don't think this will be a problem. I'd have to think Custance is reaching here.

So wait, why trade Schneider then? Gillis is a goon.

Our #1 d-man is Kronwall. I agree that Subban is better. But we don't need that because there's nothing wrong with Kronwall at #1. Everybody always seems to think you need a team full of all-stars to compete. You don't. We've got a #1, we don't have a #3. So rather than spend insane assets to get a star, just to say that we got a star, why not just get the #3 that we need and keep our assets? And that's no knock on Subban, I like Subban, he's awesome...we just don't need him for what he'd cost.

Yeah, because they'd been dangling him on the trade market for like two years and he didn't know why. The fact that they wanted to trade him was the source of that animosity.

If the Ducks are in on Vanek then I no longer understand the Ryan deal. Gotta be something else.

Hmmm, didn't see this one coming. Also don't know why it happened.

100% true. I guess I was just thinking that if he's half the "genius" GM everyone proclaims him to be he'd have learned from that mistake. Maybe not though. Edit: I decided to check the numbers and they've got the 9th best goals against in the league so I guess they're not as bad as I thought. You'd still think they'd be looking to replace Letang though.

I sure hope he is getting traded though. It would definitely lower the price on Erhoff or Edler.

I agree.

I wonder if Shero is really willing to sell the farm for Kesler or if he's just trying to scare away potential suitors/drive up the price for rivals. I mean, I can certainly imagine him going nuts and trading half of his farm club for an elite player...but wouldn't it make more sense for that player to be a defenseman than a forward...ya know, because their defense is laughable?

Agreed, I'd be VERY reluctant to move any of them. I've made clear my preferences IF they have to be moved. I was just trying to point out that we definitely have assets, it's just not smart to trade them unless you're getting studs in return.

Don't get me wrong, Subban is awesome. But we don't need a #1 d-man, we've got one. We need a #3-4 d-man to play with Dekeyser and that ain't Subban. I'll take Erhoff and keep the assets personally.

Shero reportedly says he'll beat any offer on Kesler. So there goes that.

I'm not going to preach to the choir, but yes, Ryan Kesler is a super good hockey player. You're correct that he's being underrated here. Is "Pascal Depres" a frankenstein monster made up of Pascal Dupuis and Simon Despres?