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Official Detroit Red Wings 23-24 Training Camp Discussion!
kipwinger replied to LeftWinger's topic in General
Edvinsson is looking really really good in camp so far. Can't wait to see him during the preseason. I really liked the combination of him and Petry yesterday. Ideally Jeff Petry's style of play is exactly what you'd want from Edvinsson. If he can learn solid defensive play with good even strength offense he'll be an absolute force (think Jacob Slavin here). Petry can help with that. So far my defense pairings to start the season would be: Walman-Seider Edvinsson-Petry Gostisbehere-Holl Maatta -
Two goals in his last two games for Axel Sandin Pellikka. Would be absolutely HUGE if this dude hits.
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Official Detroit Red Wings 23-24 Training Camp Discussion!
kipwinger replied to LeftWinger's topic in General
Really looking forward to seeing these line combinations. I'd imagine Lalonde will deploy lines in the same ways Cooper did. I expect him to stack the offense on lines 1 and 3 and have a 2nd shutdown line. Compher is our Cirelli, but I'm curious who his wingers will be. I think that moves Copp to 3C with more offensive guys (Berggren, Sprong?) which should increase our scoring. Of course the defense pairs are a big mystery too. I think I like: Walman-Seider Gostisbehere-Petry Chiarot-Holl Maatta -
News From Around the NHL *Mod warning page 75*
kipwinger replied to Bring Back The Bruise Bros's topic in General
He could “learn about them” by peeking in their windows at night too, but if he got caught doing so I doubt anyone would buy that as a story. Commodore is right, he’s a pervert. Pervert Babs be pervertin’. -
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kipwinger replied to Bring Back The Bruise Bros's topic in General
I don't buy it. The "I'm just getting to know them" narrative is bologna. Why couldn't he have just asked them about their kids, family, the gym, etc. to get to know them? Ya know, like everybody else does when they meet new people? Why did he need to scroll through their phones? I got it, Mike Babcock is probably just a visual learner who was trying this best to relate to the kids. -
Maybe, I don't really feel qualified to say. I will say that even in my personal life I've always found that lazyness is considered a greater personality flaw that being unethical. Perhaps it's regional but the whole "protestant ethic" thing was definitely commonplace in the households where I grew up. It was fine to berate a child for wearing makeup or something but heaven forbid you have an untidy house.
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Yeah, clearly I had Scotty pegged wrong. Thank god this is changing. Imagine if you were allowed to just harass and belittle the janitor in your office building, or the HR lady in the front office? It's insane that coaches get a pass on stuff like this at the professional level.
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News From Around the NHL *Mod warning page 75*
kipwinger replied to Bring Back The Bruise Bros's topic in General
I'd imagine the OVERWHELMING majority of people, no matter what job they have, would not feel comfortable giving their boss unfettered access to scroll through their phones' pictures, texts, etc. Just like nobody would let their boss look through their wallet or purse. And it's not like Babs doesn't know that this would make people uncomfortable, he's not a stupid person. THE POINT was to make subordinates feel intimidated and vulnerable. -
I guess maybe I'm wearing rose colored glasses when it comes to Scotty. Obviously Burr and Dino would know better than me. Mike Commodore says many of the same thing about Babs treating non-players terribly too. That's something I find especially egregious. You shouldn't treat anyone that way but especially strangers or people that work in other roles that aren't directly under the coach's supervision (e.g. building/maintenance staff or training staff).
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I don't agree. Bowman was never perceived the way Mike Keenan (more analogous to Babs) was. It was never personal with Scotty the way it is with Keenan or Babs. Paul Coffey famously didn't like playing for Bowman but not because Bowman had a personal vendetta against Coffey. Rather it was because Scotty mandated that the team play good defense and Coffey wasn't really interested in playing that way.
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I think there's a difference between having high standards and holding players accountable, and being ego-maniacal. It always seemed like Bowman was a hardass because he wanted to have the best hockey team possible whereas the point of Babcock's hijinx is to project his authority and belittle people in (perceived) subordinate roles within the organization.
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I'm sure he does work hard. Matter of fact, I imagine he was able to get away with a lot of his sh*tty, anti-social, behavior because he worked hard and had some successes. For some reason our society values toxic people who are productive much more than it values ethical people who are lazy.
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https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2015/02/16/detroit-red-wings-mike-babcock/23501841/ Reading these old puff pieces written about Babcock is hilarious in light of how his time went in Toronto and now CBJ. "I want to be the best coach of my generation". Lol. That's definitely one way it could have gone. But hear me out...what if, instead, everyone remembered you as a disgraced, self-destructive, weirdo who will be lucky to coach a midget team? Maybe try that on and wear it around a while. "I always say to people that I learned to work hard from my dad, but I learned to talk to people from my mom." What a treat she must have been. Yikes.
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Kasper played the first two games with bums on his wings and he still generated a ton of scoring chances. Then I’m the 3rd game he finally got to play with decent wingers and not surprisingly he had two points. I’m not worried about his offense at all.
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I wouldn't go that far personally, but I do think that the book on him (he doesn't score much) is probably not accurate. I do think he needs to shoot more though, which I imagine will come with age and development. Not too bad for one of the younger players in the tournament. Stop trolling. It's gross.
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Something that's been lost in the weeds a little bit as a result of the Cossa thing, but how about Nate Danielson scoring 5 points in two games? Not too shabby for one of the younger players, in one of the biggest roles, on the team. I liked seeing him out there on the PK as well.
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News From Around the NHL *Mod warning page 75*
kipwinger replied to Bring Back The Bruise Bros's topic in General
I just can't believe how pussified we've become as a society. Just think of it, you're the guy whose boss's boss's boss's boss is the owner of the franchise and you CAN'T even order around other adult men like slaves? Imagine working all your life to become a middle manager only to find out that you don't literally own your coworkers. Labor laws are ruining this country. -
Yeah, I'm not not too worried. I do agree that he better have a solid year in the AHL this year though because eyes are definitely on him now.
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You guys are so reactionary. Vile Jusso didn’t play an NHL game until he was 26 years old. Didn’t become one of the leagues 32 (maybe fewer) full time starters until he was 27. We have an example of why we shouldn’t panic on OUR team right NOW. Goalies can take time. Relax.
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Step back from the ledge fellas. It’s a prospect tournament. Let’s maybe see how he looks after a year in the AHL. He is, after all, 20 years old.
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News From Around the NHL *Mod warning page 75*
kipwinger replied to Bring Back The Bruise Bros's topic in General
That’s too bad, I’m sure the team would have played their hearts out with such a worthy leader at the helm. -
Danielson out for todays game (no update yet) and Tuomisto demoted to the second pair. Danielson has looked great, and his offense has been consistent and noticeable. I’ve also liked Lombardi, Sodorblom, Hanas, and Wallinder. Kasper has generated so many quality chances but hasn’t finished yet. He needs to work on his shot and then he’ll be okay.
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No, we were bad for the second half of the first period and the first half of the second period. That was the difference. The goalies were fine, they just got hung out to dry on two of the goals against.
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I love Art and I can't stand how snarky Daniela is when she talks to him. Everybody online gushes over her, and she's good at her job, but Art does the color commentary and I think he's entertaining. Heaven forbid someone have a little personality. Also, Bob Kaser (the announcer last night and the primary GR play by play man) is spectacular. Love that dude and hope he takes over for Ken Daniels when Ken finally retires.
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I agree, I didn't really notice him though. Speaking to the greenness of him as a prospect I guess.
