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So when do we find out if XO cleared waivers? I thought it was 24 hours?

According to the Wings Twitter, we just re-signed Frk and Bertuzzi. Detroit Red Wings @DetroitRedWings · 4m UPDATE: The Detroit #RedWings today agreed to terms with left wing Tyler Bertuzzi on a two-year contract and right wing Martin Frk on a one-year contract. tyler bertuzzi and Martin Frk

Agreed, but Nyquist in particular played the best hockey of his career when both of them were out. Granted that didn't sustain, but when he carried the team in 2014 he looked like he had a ton of potential.

I can't believe that out of Nyquist, Tatar, Jurco, XO, Marchenko, Mrazek, Sheahan, and Sproul, ONLY Nyquist/Tatar turned into anything of significance, and even they appeared at one point to have more potential then what they ended up becoming.

Ya that’s possible....does anyone know off-hand the top 6 in GR?

Tells me the plan is to spend to the cap.

Normally I'm against a buyout, but this one is peanuts. We save $1,250,000 this year, but both this year and next year suffer a $216,667 penalty. https://www.capfriendly.com/buyout-calculator/xavier-ouellet

Holy s***!! I did not see this coming!!!!

This is nuts! I thought a D man was a lock. Did not see Zadina being available.

Was this posted anywhere? I didnt see it. "Detroit Red Wings won't give qualifying offer to free agent Martin Frk" https://www.freep.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2018/06/19/detroit-red-wings-martin-frk/715302002/

The point is that Bergevin keeps making 1 for 1 trades where MTL ends up on the losing end. Subban for Weber, Drouin for Segechev, and now this. There is no doubt in my mind that had they played their cards better, they could have gotten more then Domi for for Galchenyuk.

Habs fans are livid, take a look yourself. http://hfboards.mandatory.com/threads/mtl-ari-max-domi-for-alex-galchenyuk.2503645/page-3#post-146907001 https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/video/bergevin-defends-domi-acquisition-after-uproar-from-habs-fans~1419500

Oh man, on the HOF boards Habs fans are going nuts! Arizona fans seem to be disappointed because they liked Domi, but they get it. First Weber for Subban, now this.....Bergevin is giving Chiarelli a run for his money.

IF he is willing to sign a year deal, it could be more strategic for Kovy to sign with a team like the Wings then a team he thinks is a contender. With that being said, I dont think he's coming to Detroit. I think he's negotiating with as many teams as possible in order to up his value. The argument for coming to Detroit would be that they are not likely making the playoffs, meaning that at the TDL he could be traded to a legit contender. For a UFA, best case scenario is signing with a legit contender (but that's easier said then done), 2nd best scenario is signing with a bad team that can trade you at the TDL, worst case is signing with a fringe team that may be a playoff team, but not good enough to do any damage, and not bad enough to trade you (think us in 2014). At least by signing with Detroit, he has a high chance of being traded to a legit contender come TDL, especially if its 1 year with a modified NTC.

Maybe the hold up was Garth Snow. If I were JT, having LL running the show instead of Snow would definitely increase the odds in me staying.

This seems like the most appropriate place to put this video.....scary stuff.

Awful situation, and if the allegations are true Hoffman's GF is just horrible, but I don't get why people are mad at the Sens. What one player's GF does to another players wife on social media is not something that can be controlled by the team, and I'm pretty sure you can't reprimand a player for something his GF does.

Read krsmith's posting history, he has given Holland plenty of crap for some of the contracts he has given out, and rightfully so. "Holland apologist" is such an weak term used by people, the context usually attached to it is if you don't just bash the s*** out of Holland, then this is a label thrown at you to marginalize/weaken the argument with something other then facts. The reality is that Holland has made a lot of dumb moves, and he's made some good moves. It's too bad people are so bias with their thinking that they are unable to assess Holland properly anymore. As far as the players you mentioned (some UFA's, some RFA's, some who got extension's) he is my honest unbiased take. The summer he signed Nielsen/Helm after he already signed Abby to that 7 year deal was probably the worst string of moves of Holland's tenure. They were a string of desperate move made to keep the streak alive and failed, no argument from me. Every team has some bad contracts, but to sign these when he already had some was dumb. I don't know if Holland was told to do this, or if he wanted to do this, but this is the first time that the streak ended up hurting the team and is why IMO the streak is not looked upon in the same light that it used to be. The Daley move was meh IMO, he'll likely fetch us a return at some point, so I dont hate it, but I could have done without it. DD I dont blame him for, D are not cheap, and at the time DD looked like a legit top 4 guy. He still probably is with the right coach/partner. E, I wish he was never re-signed, but I understand why it happened. After losing Lidstrom, Rafalski, and Stuart, Holland didn't want to lose 4 top 4 D-men. Should have let him walk though in hindsight. Howard was paid like a top 15 goalie, and was a top 15 goalie. Can't blame him for that deal. Plus Howard should get us a return at the TDL. I'm happy to debate this with you, but if you start trolling me I'm done.

Does Hanifin have an injury history?

We've made plenty of mistakes, but I dont think these are good examples. Nosek is a good 4th liner and I wish we still had him, but we lost him in the expansion draft. Compared to what other teams lost, I really don't think losing him is a big deal. I think Tatar is bad example, because I dont think may think that Tatar is the 13 best forward on LV, I think its more of a chemistry thing. I would bet next year Tatar is in the top 9. Blashill has not worked out, and I wish he was gone. If you want to blame Holland for sticking with Blashill (unless you believe he's doing it for the tank) then I 100% agree, but if we are going back in time to before he was hired, I don't think he was a bad choice. Sometimes things just don't work out.

Well they are 1st liners on a team in the finals who is up 1-0, and statistically fit the bill as all are pretty much at a point per game.

So the picks that Nill made that are bad, you say: "Says a lot about GM Hollands decision making capabilities that he let his Assistant make the first round picks during a time when they were scarce for Detroit." When he makes picks that are good, you say: "guess it could also be even worse if Nill wasn't there to draft the late round gems that kept the team in contention." it doesnt matter the outcome or the situation, you will always put a negative slant on it to make Holland look bad. Your bias is ridiculous. Holland has made mistakes, no doubt. But you can't say that every trade he loses is his fault, every trade he wins is because of the other GM, every good draft pick is because he assistants did it, every bad pick is on him because he is GM. Do you seriously not see the bias?

I think at this point its fair to say they are not just "3rd liners". Maybe that's what these players were in the past, but the Marchessault/Karlson/Smith is one of the best in the NHL. If Florida doesn't botch the expansion draft, they don't have this top line, and they likely don't come close to be as good as they are. There is also that coach they have....where is he from again? Oh Florida. Then you add in Anaheim's flub with Theodore and Columbus not seeing Karlson for what he was and you have a Stanley Cup contender.

Well, I guess I would offer them Nielsen, Helm, and E, for Kessel straight up lol.

It doesnt look bad from an "impact" standpoint, but look what he actually did. He skates by a guy who does not have the puck AND has a concussion history, and punches him in the temple. it really doesn't get more deliberate and mean spirited then that. I used to love Gary Roberts and the grit he showed as a player, but that was crossing the line IMO. You can't even argue that he was trying to just make a clean hit and hit him in the wrong spot with the wrong body part, he went for the temple 100% on purpose.