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How do you give them a 5 on 3 off that? garbage

Lightning down 2 to the Canes

Our bottom 6 has been on fire lately

sheesh delayed feed

29thin the league on the PP means they get one on us

If we start turning over the puck we'll lose to this team again the same way we always lose to them

Thanks Helm for the terrible turnover

Like the jump from us. Playing a team fighting for their playoff lives

Serious contenders are probably okay with using him as a rental and I think he'd be alright with playing on a contender for a couple months then signing with us in the offseason. This is just a good opportunity to ditch Kindl and let him get accustomed to our team while gauging his value accurately. Also, because I'm impatient. That defensive lineup looks pretty good and maybe Smith can take a step forward playing with an experienced and talented partner

I think other teams could offer up a better package than we are willing to offer, but this is a no brainer if only just to get out of Kindl's contract. Plus, he'll be thrilled to be playing in Detroit. Does he have a NTC? We wouldn't have that top 4 offensive defensemen we've always wanted but we would finally have some serious defensive depth that can make up for it

Kindl and 2nd? Do we have the cap space?

Making the playoffs was a good character builder for these young guys and they were integral in getting us there. Also gave them a chance to see what playoff hockey is all about and hopefully are better prepared this year

Still wasn't a smart move. I'm happy we made the playoffs of course but it was short sighted, we lost an asset no matter how you look at it. Don't get me wrong this move didn't bother me, it's just nice to see a GM admit his mistake

It's nice to see see Holland acknowledge his mistake trading away Jarnkrok for a rental. Looks like we'll go another season without upgrading the defense which sucks but is probably the right move

I'm just very cynical in my thinking. Of course there's no reason to think Franzen is faking injuries (not exactly what I suggest anyways) and I don't question his commitment to the team. I just think he was completely gassed at this point in the season. I do think players taking longer than they need with their injuries is a real thing though

I think players nurse injuries more so than others. It's just their personality, like guys like Yzerman and Z play through injuries that most guys wouldn't. Same with guys on comfy contracts opposed to somebody on their last year.

Perhaps I got carried away. I do believe these things do happen but a concussion is a very serious thing

I don't buy his last two concussions were that serious to miss an entire month. Those are very serious injuries to still have symptoms that late after two plays that nobody even noticed during the game (even searching through replays). I think if he was scoring and not having a miserable time he would have returned sooner This isn't my blind hatred for Franzen. I'm actually one of the few posters that defends him most of the time. Like a poster said here months ago when he recalled speaking with a trainer their are some guys (on every team) that like to sit on IR as much as they can, it's a very real thing. Lots of injuries are at players discretion when they feel ready. Both years he misses time right when he's been dragging his ass for weeks and not scoring. These posts are easy to flame but I think it's a very real possibility

I hate to say this but if anybody is likely to use concussion symptoms as an excuse to sit on IR for a little longer than he needs, it's Franzen. He takes a significant amount of time every year from a concussion. His brain would be goop if his concussions were that serious. Abby comes back from a concussion in a week cause he actually wants to play. Missing 3-4 weeks each year from a concussion would be very serious and questioning continuing to play. It's like when Babs called out Helm for sitting on IR all the time (never said this exactly) and then he comes in and plays the next game. Most of the time injuries like tears, soreness and concussions are players discretion and some players really want to play and some don't

The pass went into his body, not that hard to knock down. Great play by Parise but 99 times out of 100 a defensemen doesn't make that pass.

Man, do I hate Ericsson right now. And our penalty kill against one of the worst power play teams in the league. Broken clutch

A little over confident with our 13 shots on goal

Let's get to the intermission

Abby got it

Only s***e PP's score against us