frankgrimes

John Scott , Patrick Bourdelaus and Ryan Reeves would mean a lot of entertainment for a fraction of the cap

He is, always was and always will be a Pos. he is the exact opposite of Weber.Radulov doesn't bring anything to the table can't believe they've signed him over Brouwer, Backes or Looooch

lolol I thought Therrien wanted character and grit? He brings in the exact opposite. radulov lol can't wait for the term...

huge fan of Helm but this is too much for too long.

Players that could rebound aren't helping this team at all, what if they don't ? Wings would be stuck with their cap hit and the same problem this team has before. I don't want Larkin not AA to be burdened with the number 1, 2 center spot so soon...it's a different beast going up against the other teams top pairing guys. With Looch possible out doing nothing other than bringing in someone like Martin wouldn't be bad. But this situation is exactly what I feared when Holland made the trade at the draft ..The Wings have cap space but nobody with star power is available.

Not saying I would pay that but that's probably the cost. If Winnipeg trades Trouba they need a defenseman back to pair him with Mayers.

Problem is it would cost Larkin, Danny D. plus a first. So wings would have him but no D partner and other than Mantha no potential young offensive star.Still can't believe Cheveldayoff hasn't re signed his best player

Tatar/Nyquist + first round pick + Marchenko for Fowler would be too nice to be true

Looch isn't washed up but overall I agree with you. Trust me I'd love Backes, Okposo as one of the finishing pieces longterm but the Wings aren't there yet and giving either one more than 6 years scares me.

He would be right there with Larkin and Danny D. for me

I'm starting to wonder if Looch just told Holland flatout no interest, just speculation of course but there could be some reasons why the Wings aren't mentioned.

Fully understandable; I'm not even a Predsfan and Weber was a guy I always wanted on the Wings. Montreal with the addition of Weber, Shaw got a lot tougher to play against that's for sure add to that a healthy Price and they'll be back in the playoff race. Also I'm sure I'm in the minority here but I don't your top pairing is going to be Josi - Subban, I think Laviolette might prefer a more balanced top 4 pairing Josi - Ellis and Subban - Ekholm

True but Chiarelli also traded him to LA. But man if Looch signs there I would be very comfortable with just staying pat and go after Tavares next year.

Tell that to team Canada *lol* Anyhow Hall + for Weber would have been very fair can't believe Hall didn't get them something better. Larsson is not bad but for sure not enough to get Hall. Chiarelli must be very sure that Looch is going to sign there.

There is a differense: Benning did this before saturday night at that point it wasn't allowed, after Saturday teams were allowed to talk to the free agents. That's why he got fined and others didn't.

Feel bad for you, Weber is the definition of what (most) people would want from a defenseman, even if he is a bit aging still an unbelievable player most teams would LOVE to have. Yeah it's amazing Nashville has an unbelievable eye for defensive talent and how to develop them. Wonder if Josi is going to be the next captain because Fisher won't play for much longer.

Backes, Okposo, Ladd and Brouwer will be worth whatever GMs are going to pay them. Stamkos couldn't have waited till July 3 because his 8 year would expire tomorrow In my mind standing pat would not be bad I know it won't happen but playing the young guys trade some veterans at the trade dead line and finally get a stud first round pick would help extremely to get this rebuild started

The guy who made that thing you just attached a few posts ago

Simple demand and supply whoever loses out on Ladd will look at Backed although I'd prefer him over Ladd. 4 years ? Well then the aav needs to start with a 8. The truth is simple no one available helps the Wings when it comes to center or defense and trading for RNH would be the wrong move. I think Stamkos and his camp not showing interest in even hearing an interview about signing here speaks volumes ...changes are needed but nothing available spells Star power. Glad I didn't believe stammer would ever come here otherwise it'd be Suter/Parise again.

it's obvious but hey let us wait till the Wings play the Habs with Weber and Price in the line up. Maybe That Photoshop designer will need to make a graphic with broken nets then.

Lol at the thought of Backes for 2 to 3 years the guy is looking to cash in so forget everything under 6x6 at the least.

Last time I checked Kessel was on team USA, if your reference is about the world cup of hockey I don't know nor do I care. Don't even know if one of Weber, Subban both or neither are on the team. It's not an awesome argument it's the truth the people in charge have to take a lot into account and as far as I know Weber checks all the boxes.

Take that thing and show it to team Canada I'm sure they care more about the opinion of some Photoshop designer than the ones actually in charge of running team Canada also known as the best team in the world. Like I've said in the short term Habs won the deal hands down long term will depend how both players develop and if Subban can become elite defensively.

If Miller doesn't perform they'll send him to the Rapids and be on the hook for 25k that's nothing. When it comes to Shaw it's a great contract guy is pound for pound a pain to play against and will go to the net hard.He is going to block shots , hit people and do whatever it takes to help his team win. Such a versatile player who can also easily play top 6.

Weber is unreal it doesn't matter what some arm chair GMs believe. What will matter is the brute force , lethal shot and unmatched leadership abilities Weber will bring. Teams like the Wings will again have the pleasure of facing him 6 times a year, not exactly encouraging. I think the first 3 years it isn't even a question that the Habs won this trade, if Subban can further round out his game then it might change after that but till then...Poile traded their leader and best blueliner Nashville ever had.