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I didn't say the are exactly +/- I said they nothing more than, e.g. are as useless as this stat. For example the afore mentioned St.Louis goal : Kindl changes in the worst possible moment, is therefore off the ice when St.Louis scores. Guess who is the lucky guy on the ice desperately trying to catch the guy Kindl just abandoned ? Right, its Smith who, following your stats, is fully responsible for the goal while Kindl is not. If you can break down every goal and show me that and why Smith f***ed up on any of these I'll be the first who's with you. But your stats are just ridiculously flawed. Just because someone is on the ice doesn't mean he is responsible for the goal against. And while Smith is the better player he also has to face the tougher opposition while Kindl plays heavily sheltered minutes.

To be fair Kindl screwed up the change that led to the 2:0 of St.Louis. It's not that he has been good all around while Smith is solely responsible for our GA. The stat you provided are nothing more than the good old +/- which is a very questionable stat imho to measure how good or bad a player did. That said we had problems making a decent first pass the last few games and I give you that : Smith didn't look good the these games but that can be said about all our D-Man and the team as a whole. You can be Nick Lidstrom, but if your team doesn't skate you'll inevitably produce turnovers (ok, maybe not if your Nick Lidstrom but any other player will) . Smith wasn't notably worse than others especially the sheltered Kindl. I also don't say Kindl sucks, he provides more or less what you'd expect from a 3rd pairing D-Man. The sucking is a team effort so to speak, calling out single players right now is the wrong call in this situation.

Not bad. That PP woke us up. GO Wings !

I'd agree with you if we had one shot on goal.

Not to forget Tatar. Everyone is playing awful right now.

In Germany we call that beautifying the bride. The more points he gets the better the return in a trade might be. That and in addition he is one of two D-Man that actually shoots the puck more or less well. Damn it.

I'll sponsor the drinks if he gets a hatty.

We don't. Not if we plan to sign a Top 4 RH D-Man and resign Nyquist next season.

I still think he's valuable as a penalty killer because of his speed but, yea, he is to pricey for just that.

Simply because we already have a second line center waiting to return. And if he returns your scenario would put us in a ridiculous bad position. We both agree on Helms abilities or the lack of them respectively (and Franzen btw). But what we need is a short time solution to compensate for Weiss and in my opinion that means putting Helm on the wing.

Some here say the same about Franzen. No one is opting for a free for all here, but as long as our supposed second line center is out we have to make compromises and play guys on positions that aren't optimal. Helm isn't the perfect winger for sure but he should be better than Shehan who imho isn't ready to center a top 6 line yet.

I'd switch Franzen with Sheahan and let Mule center the second line. He did a good job on this position before and Sheahan wasn't that great this season. At least not top 6 great.

Not again.

I'm not so much concerned with giving Buffalo one point but more with us not getting two. These are the lost points that might bite us back at the end of the season if we don't win those supposed easy games.

Dats !

Not as far as I know. I read somewhere that they always played the Canadian anthem out of general respect and not started just because of the shootings.

Yes, it's a tradition in Buffalo. Has nothing to do with the recent events.

Hope your relative gets well soon Hockeytown0001. Here are the projected lineups : Projected Lineup Zetterberg-Datsyuk-Abdelkader Nyquist-Helm-Franzen Tatar-Sheahan-Jurco Miller-Glendening-Andersson Kronwall - Ericsson DeKeyser - Smith Lashoff - Kindl Howard Projected Lineup Moulsen - Ennis - Stafford Gionta - Hodgsen - Stewart Mitchell - Girgensons - Adam Deslauriers - McCormick - Flynn Gorges - Myers Mezaros - Ristolainen Zadarov - Strachan Neuvirth Let's GO Wings !

The best tactic against the Kings looks petty straight forward : Take out the 70's - Line and they will have troubles to score. Easier said than done....

I wonder if that could open the market for trading Quincy. He has been very solid lately. Probably wishful thinking from my side....

I thought about it a little bit and in my opinion it would be very dumb of the Wings to use the stint just to send a signal to Weiss. The next one if needed would almost certainly be rejected. And it's not that he was a regular in the lineup lately so I don't get the penalize argument. For a player like Weiss it should be hard enough not to play while guys like Nestrasil do. All in all I'm very optimistic that this is the last step in his rehab and that we will see more of him once his stint in GR is over.

Hm. That doesn't sound good.If it's true question is if he just can't battle hard enough or doesn't want to.

It was.

Good first period, aside from not scoring on our PP there is not much to criticize. Let's GO Wings !

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