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He broke his right leg, then fractured it again in his next game back. Fractures are not the same as "wear and tear" and "pain" in my knee. I don't think anyone would want to keep breaking/fracturing their own leg unless they're into masochism or something and I don't think any doctor in their right mind would approve a guy to go keep breaking his leg over and over.

The thing is, I have a lot of doubt that it would cause him to be handicapped in the future. If it did, he wouldn't be playing 55-56 games this year (that's A LOT). And if there was such a risk, things such as knee-replacement surgeries would likely be a conclusive treatment in his future; I.E he's not going to be a wheelchair bound man. For one: he's already told us (albiet vaguely) what his issue is. http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2016/09/red_wings_niklas_kronwall_impr.html 1. Pain 2. Wear and tear. Pain and wear/tear doesn't make you handicap. It just makes you... hurt a lot. You can replace your knee completely in today's day and age and walk around freely and live a normal life, but you still can't your brain or spinal cord (Franzen, Pronger and everyone else on LTIR). I know my points have elements of speculation as well. But the main point I'm trying to make is that if you look at everyone on LTIRetrement, most, if not all of them are people who have post-concussion syndrome, blood clot, neck or back surgery, or spinal/vertebral issues. There is no one on LTIR that has elbow/knee, finger, toes, hands, feet chronic orthopedic issues. At least going through that list. So that's why I am very confident that Kronwall will either finish the contract (and limit the games he plays) or he will actually retire causing us to get a cap penalty. And that is something we don't want. I can see them attempt the LTIR. But I can also see them losing the case for it.

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I've said this before but I don't think a lot of people understand what LTIRetirement is. And because we have seen it with Franzen, we may be overestimating how it actually works. It doesn't look as though there is a single player on LTIR'd for "knee issues". I am certain you have to be on the verge of handicap or terrible future outlook (Franzen, Pronger, Dupuis etc) in health to be LTIR'd. Can't just go on LTIR because you have chronic knee pain. Here's a list of all the NHL injured players. Almost everyone that has been LTIR'd has either a brain issue (severe concussion), spinal cord issue, blood clots, vertebral issue, or severe neck or back surgery. These are all life-threatening conditions. http://www.rotoworld.com/teams/injuries/nhl/all/

I know right

Playoffs? Yes in the 2018 playoffs.

No. We will trade down.

That's because Pooh doesn't treat Tigger well at night

I didn't come up with any logic. I pointed out that Z was assistant. You could say that both Z and Fedorov were both part of the leadership core in the stanley cup victories. Unfortunately for Feds though he was stripped of his title. That's not a good thing. Bringing up how Feds was an "A" doesn't work in his favor. He got stripped of that title. The things to focus on would be stuff like his accomplishments and franchise records with the team. I did some of that stuff in the initial pages of this thread in the summer.

Got stripped of it after 97 lol

Well assistant captain technically speaking. Him and Datsyuk/Draper. They were all part of the leadership group.

Oooooo passive-aggressive shots fired by Z! Yeah they want you to promote their product while NFL and MLB seasons are on break, bro. They're businessmen.

But we both love Zetterberg more right? Right?? And I agree Svech brought me joy.

I enjoy drama so I want s*** to go down.

I accept this win since Svech was a hero in this

We need you to keep us in check

Yeah I didn't respond because I didn't want to make it "a thing" but after some more posts I knew conflict resolution was imminent. Also yes on the bear hug, except I'm Tigger. The only bacteria on this page right now is the guy in the pic below: I think he needs another dose of antibiotics, he's been acting up lately. Call in the poolside medic I say.

It wasn't even in response to you lol.

I already explained the Montreal situation, read above; was in reference to the Montreal sarcasm in those 2-3 posts by people. I was engaged in the Roy point (even quoted you!) and talked about Fedorov a couple of times (quoted Rightwinger). Ya'll gotta relax. And the comment "Lol are people seriously not reading the reason for the thead bump." was a part of the following conversation. As you can see my comment was an add-on to Kliq's response to Puckbags. Come on guys. I feel like Regina, having a convo with Bill Berzeench.

BTW when I was "steering" us back it wasn't directed at you or PVD. It was directed at someone who made the sarcastic comment about Montreal.

I steered us back to one of the main topics being talked about. Away from Montreal's standards and how they retire a million jerseys. Also if you see my posts I was talking about Patrick Roy and his situation and Montreal as a comparison to Fedorov. Additionally I've gone back and forth with you about Fedorov and his "innocence". So I'm not sure why you guys are assuming things when my post history is literally right there.

Again where did I say we should only be talking about Holland's quote?. All I said was "away from montreal" in reference to the people talking about how Montreal retires random numbers and has low standards; mainly because I didn't want it to get out of hand about us arguing over it. Call it a "damage control" post if you will. The information about WHO Montreal retired is actually helpful and a good point in using as a comparison. The points that were being made about Montreal's crappy standards or how they retire a million jerseys was not. Nobody said you're not allowed to talk about the other 3 players. I've BEEN discussing Fedorov myself. I made the topic, do you and PVD honestly think I'm that stupid? Surely you know my intelligence level after interacting with me all this time.

Where exactly did I say that we should only be talking about that? PVD don't tell me your sinking to the level of putting words in my mouth. That's pretty disappointing. Quote me.

Lol are people seriously not reading the reason for the thead bump.

Should be sometime between first and second round of the playoffs. So sometime in April.