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Babcock out coaching Blash so hard right now

Sheahan's biggest contribution thus far: Being offsides on PP.

Lol here comes the Larkin hate on the forums. We know where it's starting. Yeah um, being an original 6 franchise you would think Toronto could do a little better.

Time for revenge from 2014

Injured after being toppled over by Jensen and Condra. Doctors want to see how Howard responds with a few days rest. http://www.freep.com/story/sports/nhl/red-wings/2016/12/21/detroit-red-wings-goalie-jimmy-howard/95705684/ Poor Jimmy. Guy can't catch a break. Team doesn't score when he's in net then repeatedly gets injured.

You said lets go back to 2014/15. I say lets go back to 2015/16 (last season). We still had Datsyuk. He was out top scorer after Z. Yet our PP still sucked. Cuz Blashill and Ferschweiler. So 2014/15 we have Datsyuk, Weiss, and No Larkin. Our PP is 2nd best in the league. 1st in the league in actual PP goals scored. 2015/16 we have Datsyuk, Larkin and no Weiss, PP drops to 13th. Huge drop between Babs coaching staff and Blashill's. The only difference in players was we had Larkin rather than Weiss. And let's be honest Larkin is better than Weiss. It's obvious that when it comes to offense, coaching is the biggest part and of course it's also partially on the players. And as I saud defense is simply a player issue. We're not getting that part fixed until we get some help. No DK, Green or 36 year old Kronner going to fix any of that.

Our PP sucks because our coaching sucks (relatively). 2nd best in the league with Babcock. Worst in the league with Blashill. Same players with the addition of Larkin, Vanek, Nielsen, and your boy Mantha. Lost Datsyuk but even with him in the line up last year our PP was still terrible. Babcock took that PP coach with him when he went to Toronto.

$30 million dollars gets your immunity for dumb errors

Lol ok.

Take a look at what I said about Mike Green. Guy played with Ovechkin and scored 45, comes to Detroit underproduces. Fowler plays with Getzlaf and Perry. Won't make a difference here guaranteed.

Will? That's a guarantee? How many games has Fowler played and how many has Trouba played? What team does Fowler play on? Who does Trouba play on. Fowler comes here to a below average team and he'll be exposed. FYI Mike Green scored 45 points with Washington before he signed with us. Look what he did last year. Saw a lot of folks here talking some major trash about Green last year. Won't be surprised if the same happened with Fowler if he comes here and doesn't produce as much as he did with Getzlaf and Perry (two elite superstars). People go ga ga when they look at numbers and seem to forget what context is.

Meh, I'm just going off the responses I got when I said that in the summer. People started posting his TOI and claiming he's number one because he plays the minutes etc. So then for those that want him, if Fowler is indeed a #2 or #3 what good is it getting him.

I still maintain my stance that Fowler is no true #1 (contrary to almost everyone on this website). Would not give up Mantha for him. If Fowler came to Detroit $200 says he would get exposed on a bad team. Besides as I've already said, Fowler's price would probably be high. Would Mantha even be enough? Danny D just got a $30 million deal and he ain't even a true #2 let alone a #1. It's a sellers market.

Lol indeed, but at least this time it's a lot more civil.

Probably because the other posters cherry pick Mrazek's stats so he followed suit. An eye for an eye!

If you think opinions on Nyquist and Tatar have been scewed hen I would say the same about Dekeyser. He hasn't been good for almost 2 years now. I don't think coaching is bad on defense. Defense has been bad since Lidstrom left. That's a player issue. All of Kronwall, XO, Smith, Green and Dekeyser would at best be 2nd pairing guys on good teams. And that's me being generous as I'd see most of them on a third line. Mike Green actually was a 3rd pairing guy in Washington before we signed him. Face it, our defensive players just aren't good no matter how genius of a coach you brought in. On the other hand our top offensive guys all have the potential to score 30 goals. Tatar, Nyquist, Larkin, Abdelkader, even possibly even Mantha have been or are on pace to be 20 - 25 + goal scorers in their future. The problem isn't the offensive players, it's the fact that our PP has gone to s***. Without a good PP, guys like Nyquist and even Tatar to an extent will suffer. This is a special teams league now. There's a huge difference between the way the PP was ran under Babcock and now under Blashill, it's visually there. It's completely broken up, nobody shoots, one-timers are rarely set up the right way, players are playing in a different position on the PP than were under Babcock.

Our offense isn't bad because our players are bad Rich. Our offense is bad because our coaching is bad in that regard. Our defense is bad because our defenders are actually mediocre or even below that. I truly wonder how much people pay attention to our team. Offense = coaching issue Defense = player issue And that's bad because....? Having 3 players who can score 25 goals in this league is a good thing. It's not 1980 anymore lmao.

Other than the fact that Blashill hates AA? No.

Why? Because he's not doing as well as last year and Mantha happens to be scoring on Zetterberg's line (which everyone historically usually does anyways)? Come on dude.

Depends who

Mantha - "Z's helping me out a lot, talking to me on and off the ice" Yea buddy.

And just like that Coreau is giving Mrazek a run for his money. I must admit his last game I thought he was a bit lucky. Tonight he had a solid performance, not so much relying on luck.

Sheahan will get the game winner.

Lots of pressure by the Wings. Playing with a chip on their shoulder And goal

Always loved Alfredsson. ----- They're talking about the Swedes welcoming Alfredsson. Some news outlets may interpret this as the Swedish Mafia inducting a new member. Or something. I wonder if he still has his house in Detroit