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f*** it add Vanek then.

@krsmith17 Do you know how the 2019 draft looking for defenseman anyway?

That’s how much the reporters care about the poor guy

This post is so *** and I like it.

Don’t trade them because they’re on the books and want to simply play hockey and enjoy playing with the team. Holland has called this a rebuild, its not like the veterans don’t know this. They could demand a trade tomorrow for a contender but chose to stay. Quick fixes is exactly what delayed our rebuild from 2014-2017. All it did was delay the inevitable. Vanek and Alfredsson signings were both failures. High draft picks (Larkin) were success. The assistant GM, Kris Draper himself mentioned last season in an interview with Helene and the free press that he WANTED us to lose to get a high draft pick. He also mentioned that he wants the kids to take the spots, so signing a Vanek directly contradicts that. —- HSJ: “You were such a competitive player. Is it tough to want the team to miss the playoffs in order to get into the draft lottery? KD: “Listen, I know they are going to play hard and do everything they can to make the playoffs. They basically want to screw up our draft. Here we are talking about Rasmus Dahlin, a kid that potentially is going to be a franchise defenseman — they don’t care about that. They want to win. But in the end, for us to get better, we have to draft really well and then we have to find some gems. Dan Cleary is out west right now watching Michael Rasmussen and Dennis Cholowski. Those guys have really made some big strides. We hope they can continue in their development, that they have a big summer. We need to expedite this process. We need to get these kids bigger and faster and stronger, quicker, to come in and start challenging for spots. That’s how you get better. We have to draft well. We have to find players.” HSJ: “So you’re rooting for them to play well but come up a goal short? KD: “Ha, I’m not touching that one. I still have friends in that locker room. I know that Henrik Zetterberg is one of the most ultimate competitors that I’ve ever played with. We know what he is going to do. But it’s a tough league.” https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.freep.com/amp/323124002

No I want 2019 top 5 pick. Even with all the players we have right now it’s still not enough to be a cup contender. We lack heavily on defense. We don’t even have a 1D and Holland’s track record shows he is not into trading for it because the 1D market for trades is atrocious.

So outdated

I am 100% down for this and will post it all over the Red Wings Facebook, instagram page if someone gets this started.

That's a dumb solution if we already have Frk. What's the point of having "weapons on the left-side" in 2018 for a team that will likely end up picking top 10 in the draft again anyways. I know ya'll high on Vanek, I like him too. And I'm pretty sure he was well liked around the lockerroom, but he's not really helping us in our present day.

They probably think they are playoff ready and go after Vanek

Christian Bale should be the next James Bond.

f*** Veleno. He’s officially a bust. Trade this guy. Veleno + AA for Tampa’s 2nd round pick.

Exactly

I’m not saying Vanek actually legitimately sucks. I’m just saying his trade deadline value is bad and just bringing him once for PP as a right handed shooter like Neo wants is a bad idea. Vanek can score but that would only be useful for us if we were making a run. We have younger players who can score and will. Besides, Vanek isn’t a player that makes the younger players better. He’s more the type that utilizes other good playmakers. If anything he would probably benefit from Larkin than the other way around. If we want vets to help the kids, should sign Joe Thornton. Otherwise stand pat with what we have in Zetterberg, Kronwall, Nielsen.

You don’t handicap your cap space for a right handed shooter that might be beneficial for a total of 3 minutes a game lol.

Great cheap signings. Great movie

Yeah they should get a young one. But signing Vanek in the cap era just for “handedness” in a non-playoff team sounds utterly stupid. Unless Holland thinks we have a shot at the playoffs. If we’re signing any older free agents it’s to flip them at the trade deadline in case things don’t workout. Vanek’s value sucks.

Which is what teams that are heading to the playoffs would do at trade deadline.... which we aren't looking like we are; and if we do we may sign someone then. According to who/what? The "unlimited funds and cap space" theory proposed by Sir Scotty Bowman?

He doesn't fill any need. A right handed forward is just some bulls*** you guys made up here in LGW.com and some guy asked Ansar Khan on May 22nd. Like I said the 2008 team didn't have any forwards on the PP (Samuellsen played on the point and so does Mike Green). The PP specialists as of now consist of Nyquist, Zetterberg, Larkin, Mantha, Zadina, AA, Abdelkader, Rasmussen (possibly) and Nielsen if needed. So where does Vanek fit in exactly? They only have 3-4 forwards at a time out on ice (most likely 3 on one unit and 4 on the other). There's 2 units and I just named 9 people.

She would be your aunt.

And even Tatar and Nyquist looked good because Zet and Dats were elite playmakers.

Yeah I remembered him and took it out. But he played on the point anyways like Green does.