DickieDunn

I believe that in order to win you need two high end forwards and a D-man who at least gets int he Norris conversation. High end D-men are drafted all over the place, but by far the most likely way of getting an elite level forward is one of the top few picks of the draft. Can you get lucky and find a Zetterberg late, or a Kopitar in the middle of the round? Sure. But it's not very likely. I also believe that in a cap world, every dollar counts, and continuing to overpay mid level players and signing older vets to free agent deals longer than a year or two does nothing but clog up cap space and delay the obvious and inevitable rebuild, and that Holland's insistence that they need to do it the same way they did last time around because it worked then is doing nothing but locking the team into mediocrity for the foreseeable future. Every team has a guy or two making more than they should. Detroit has several. Some of them declined because of injury, but others were questionable at best from day 1. Abdelkader wasn't likely to get a better deal than he got. Ditto for Helm, Glendening, and Dekeyser. The Wings used to be able to retain their players for reasonable contracts, now they can't. With Dekeyser they were kind of stuck, with the other 3 they could have easily let them walk away, especially Helm and Glendening, both of whom are fairly easy to replace.

No, I want them to use the high picks intelligently like Chicago and Pittsburgh did, and Edmonton did once they got a competent GM. I don't want the #9 overall to be used on a guy who might be a good 2nd line winger, and I don't want to draft in the middle of the round year after year and end up with a roster full of 2nd line forwards and 2nd pair D. Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

How did Chicago and Pittsburgh build their teams? Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk And so we're doomed to years of mediocrity, just like the Lions Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

They still have guys who may be ready this year and who certainly be ready next year. No need to give a 33 year old a 3 year deal. Could have had Quincy for a year, or someone else for a year. Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

Worst record still gaurantees a top 4 pick, losing 4-0 in the 1st round keeps you mediocre Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

Ken Holland makes me want to punch someone

You think Daley is gong to help do anything other than make it more likely to miss the draft lottery and get blown out in the first round?

Holland on the offseason: I have potato dollars to spend on free agents, SIGN OLD GUY'S AND AHL PLAYERS!!!!!!!

If I could get AA to go 4x4 I would Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

Ownership is either ignoring or doesn't comprehend what's happening either. Chris needs to stop trying to impress Miss Vaughn and pay attention to the team Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

Long term solution to a short term problem. It's like buying a new car because your other one will be in the shop for a few days with no plan to sell your old one. Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

Fire Holland Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

Old guy, check. Multiple years, at least one year too long, check Prevents a younger player from getting a spot, Check Typical Holland deal Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk Never sign a player to a multi year deal that takes him past 35. Wheels fall off before then. Yes, he can skate now. By year 2 or 3 probably not so much. Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

dumb

Signing Daley to anything other than a 1 year deal is yet another in the long list of Holland blunders.

AA is RFA, Helm was UFA and Holland panicked at the thought of losing him. This is what I expect

I'll be shocked if he's not extended

I'd rather have McIlrath on the wing. I don't like D who can't do much more than punch Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

Why would Yzerman leave TB? He's building the team there, under contract, and has no reason to quit. Unless he completely screws the pooch and gets fired, in which case why would we want a failed GM, why would he quit? Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

Yup. Good enough to help a couple skilled players but not to generate offense himself. That's not the type of guy you hand a 7 year deal Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

When he signed that deal he was fairly young and was looking like a solid player. Then he got hurt and started playing like he was afraid of injury. Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

Even if he moves up, does anyone believe he won't have a big role in day to day operations? Martin and/or Draper will be getting their marching orders from Uncle Kenny. Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

It's all part of the Kenny Holland stealth tank. Tank while making it look like he's trying to win Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

I think a lot of it is over coaching and a piss poor system Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

As long as Chris is making money he won't shake things up. I said awhile back that they remind me of the Lions under WC Ford, the longer it goes the more this is true Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk