DickieDunn

No, I misunderstood wtf "Ottawa Streak" meant. Maybe you should have been clearer. In the extremely unlikely event that happens, I'll be too shocked to be upset. If they manage to sneak in just to get blown out, which is slightly more likely, I won't be happy. Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

I think trading Nyquist or Tatar now is a mistake unless Trash is brought back. They have no value and I think they're going to bounce back once they get a competent coach. Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

By Ottawa streak I assume you mean terrible for several years. At that point making the finals would be a big step forward. 8 or 10 years of the playoffs including trips to the finals with no Cups would not be satisfying. Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

Is the goal to make the finals or win? Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IIHF_World_Under_20_Championship_Directorate_award_winners Lot of not very good nhl goalies there Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

Boston took advantage of a couple screw ups by other teams to get some key players and got lucky with Thomas turning into a stud that late in his career. The Sharks and Rags haven't won yet. Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

Miller was a good soldier but he lost what ability he had. Hard work isn't enough. Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

No it's not important. Winning the Cup is important. Making it knowing you have virtually no shot at the Cup doesn't do much. Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

Howard has never been this bad for this long.

Is this based on the little over half season he played well or the almost full year he's played bad?

Howard picks 8 teams he won't go to. It's not a complete ntc Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

Howard's cap hit from buying him out plus the salary for a back up doesn't save a ton. They might still do it if Mrazek hadn't gone to crap, but I don't see them trusting him to be #1 now. Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

Bowman's teams weren't goos defensively because they played it safe, it was because they always had the puck and when they didn't they pushed to get it back Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

4 potential outcomes, ranked worst to best Go on a run, make Holland think they have a chance so he doesn't sell and maybe even buys at the deadline and they miss the playoffs. Actually squeak into the playoffs just to lose in 4 or 5 games Hover around the 8th draft spot Go back to how they played most of the year and get a shot at #1 overall.

Season saved! Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

Mrazek has​ been bad for 11 months. That's not half a season. Nobody is going to want the Wings trash. Ott Miller Nyqust Ericsson etc. aren't going anywhere Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

Help the team do what, finish 24th in the league instead of last? Sucking is sucking. Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

So Vanek is the key to winning the Cup? No? Then trade him.

What does keeping Vanek do? Prevent the team from getting an asset that potentially helps long term and gives them a little better chance of sneaking into the playoffs to get thumped in the first round next year, assuming he doesn't disappear once he gets a multi year contract.

When the Isles traded Vanek he was rumored to be looking for a huge contract. That affects his value. now he's likely to be pretty easy to re-sign should his new team want to keep him. I don't know that he'll bring a a first, but a second and a prospect or a second and a lower pick should be a reasonable expectation. But even if all they can get is a 3rd, you take it because it's better than nothing. Ditto for Green. Niether of these guys are going to help them win enough to matter in the short term and by the time a rebuild is finished they will be long gone. Any pick or prospect that they bring in could help them in 3-5 years though, which is where the focus needs to be Howard is hurt and has a history of poor play following a long term injury. Mrazek has been terrible. If I was looking for immediate help in net I wouldn't tough either of them.

2 points out of last in the East, and the Isles have 2 games in hand on them. 6 points out of the 8th spot, need to jump 5 teams to get there. Yup, they're on a roll!

Stop being a hater he scored over 20 goals one year and had back to back 40 point seasons. That was all him, too. It had nothing to do with playing almost exclusively with Zetterberg and Datsyuk. If anything those old farts held him back. Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

I haven't begun to lose it. Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk

If Holland doesn't sell Im gonna lose my $#!t. So I'm preparing to lise my $#!t. Sent from my LGLS676 using Tapatalk