DickieDunn

It's almost impossible to have that in a cap league. If the 4th line cam contribute in any way, it's a positive. The real issue is over use of them, and that's a coaching issue.

The second rounder alone almost makes it worthwhile to move down 4 spots, getting rid of Datsyuk's cap hit makes it a steal.

I'm not sold on Brodin. Story I heard was that Suter wanted a different partner but Brodin's numbers took such a dip without him that they put them back together.

The team that benefits from a lower cap hit gets the charge

Why does Kahn think they'd protect Ericsson? Detroit would be hit with most of the penalty

I'm not saying he can be signed for that, I'm saying any more would be a stupid contract. As far as Tatar goes, I showed how the value of the give away Stat is iffy at best, and anyone who watched him last year can see how he ignored open linemates and tried to do everything himself instead, leading to the other team getting the puck. Just because they stay guy didn't give him give aways for that doesn't mean he's a good possession player, and your argument that the stats say he is and you can't prove otherwise is just plain asinine. You remind me of a guy on the old rwc board who complained that Miller was overused a few years ago because his total TOI led the team when he was the only one who played close to 82 games and his average TOI was something like 13th among the forwards. But the numbers proved he was right.

Same can be said about a lot of guys who played in Detroit

3 years at under $4.5 per or it's too much

So you don't care if the state is poorly defined and not applied consistently, it backs up your opinion so it's valid. Got it.

https://slappersandstats.com/tag/turnovers/ According to the Isles stats guy there is no official definition of a give away or take away. These stats are extremely subjective.

http://www.arcticicehockey.com/2009/10/12/1081096/giveaways-and-takeaways

Yeah, the guys who are going to bang hookers, gamble, booze it up, and do drugs in Vegas will do that stuff anywhere.

The same thing can be said of you. "What I see is irrelevant because stats never lie."

Give away and take aways are subjective, same with hits. I've seen games where I know Abdelkader or someone drilled 5 or 6 guys and got credited with 3 hits.

Stats saying Tatar is one of the best forwards for that tells you how much stars can be off. He skates around refusing to pads then tries to skate through 3 defenders and either gets a weak shot or gives it up

Holland used to know that most prospects don't pan out so it's OK to trade them. He's forgotten that.

They're professional athletes, I doubt it's going to be an issue

Where are these teams that would want Howard or Ericsson without Detroit eating a bunch of their salaries?

He's not a top line player anymore. Larkin might never get there. Stamkos is the real deal, do what you can to get him.

Why, he's going to be a 3rd liner at best, unless you're one of those people who think every prospect that might be an NHL player is untouchable? If you sign Stamkis then try to trade the contract and cant, you're screwed. Trade it, then go for Stamkos.

And if you wait and can't move the contract later?

No, they won't.

And Richards hasn't been a good player in a few years now. Stamps is still an elite player.

http://nhl.nbcsports.com/2016/06/06/report-theres-a-chance-nhl-salary-cap-could-drop-below-70m-next-season/?ocid=Yahoo&partner=ya5nbcs&yptr=yahoo Basically up to the PA. If they vitevyes, it goes up. If they vote no, it drops. Raising it means more in the escrow account they might not get back.

It's not retired, let him wear it