ChristopherReevesLegs

That could happen. I think if Larsson performs well in GR and Howard gets hurt Yzerman may wanna take a look at him.

Cory Emmerton, Jan Mursak, Andrej Nestrasil, Landon Ferraro, Joakim Andersson, Christopher Ehn, Jacob De La Rose, Dominic Turgeon... One of these days we will find our Jason Williams replacement... one of these days...

We will see on both. Hronek has already proved he's legit in my eyes.

McCarron is big I like that about him

It's amazing that Hronek is like the only decent Dman we've drafted since Kronwall (year 2000). 16 years of not developing any Dmen can hurt one would think.

Kyle Turris

I have a weird underlying feeling that Larsson is gonna suit up for the Wings this year and look good.

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Lafreniere seems awesome. I remember posting a clip of him on here around 2017, and saying we should definitely draft this kid. Someone quickly informed me he was only like 16/17 and wasn't eligible. I pretty much stopped following him then and there. But I remember watching him play back then and instantly thinking holy s*** this kids gonna be good AF. Clearly he's only gotten even better since then. I'm sorta not surprised he's the projected #1 pick. Anyway I think the point here is, Lafriendyay is probably good enough to play center if it was asked of him going forwards. Maybe he'd be way better as a winger, but that's beside the point. I'm sure he could do it decently if he's not a rare bunk #1 overall, and carve out a good career there even if it's not ideal.

Lefty making more sense than Buppy... Gonna be a weird year huh?

Yzerman was drafted in the first round in 1983 Larkin was drafted in the first round in 2014 A difference of 31 years 31 revered is 13 The last player to where 13 was Pavel Datsyuk Datsyuk cites his mentors as Larionov, Fedorov, and YZERMAN Now Yzerman is Larkin's GM Something confirmed. Larkin is the next Wings legend.

WTF is going on in here lol

Not buppy's favorite point to argue I see (and expected). I accept your concession

Who's arguing this? Honestly? Quote them, cause I haven't seen it from anyone but you.

Being completely upfront with you, I expect more from you. You're smarter than this. I didn't bold anything... You're way to hung up on this. You have more faith than me, I admit that openly, no need to harp on it. Not sure why you're re-inserting this. I said already this is completely side car to my point, and I conceded to you in interest of avoiding the distraction... What? Hey dickweed. Loser. R-tard. I will re-evalute if I want to keep them in 1 year, 2 years, 3 years, and 4. For now I want them. Does that explanation appease your sensitive nature?

I don't how closely you've watched, but the last 6 months have been tastefully peppered with media coverage alluding to Larkin being named captain. It's already done IMO. We're just waiting for the announcement. I'm pretty stoked on it though. Larkin I think will make a great C. I'm excited to watch this kid develop into a modern Yzerman.

I don't think this team has the assets, or will be able to develop or acquire the necessary assets to be competitive within the next 2 seasons. I tend to think Yzerman likely agrees with that notion based on the 2-year stop gap contracts he handed out this offseason. that said, I think we can we can become competitive again after this 2 year stretch ahead of us. What I mean by competitive is: A team with salaries more in control, a team ready to add meaningful FAs or meaningful players via trade, and a team flirting with and/or making the playoffs. After two years of being "competive" and improving the roster I think this team could develop into a cup-contender. A team like Boston/Tampa/Toronto etc who has a superb roster and is expected to go deep in the playoffs. I hope that's clear. If AA/Bertuzzi/Mantha were 33+ at that time, I would agree with you. 29 year old players are valuable assets IMO and will help with a playoff or cup push Again, 29 is too old in your mind, but adding via FA (players who are likely 29 or older) is an option? Keeping AA/Bertuzzi/Mantha isn't just about leadership to me. These are valuable players who contribute in significant ways. I'm ok with moving them, but I'd prefer a lateral move. I'll point out again too that Yzerman doesn't like to build via FA. Star players rarely move teams. I'm not the least bit concerned about Larkin. Hopefully the kids force the issue and the team is forced to become competitive faster. I would like that, but that could be good or bad for this team too. Accelerating too quickly can become a problem I think. But again, I too would like to be relevant sooner. I think management will likely sell off assets this TDL. Draft high again. And do the same again the season after. Yzerman preached patience for a reason. Hopefully the kids success will make him more eager to accelerate sooner.

Do you think Mantha, AA, and Bertuzzi need to be traded NOW if we don't push for it all in the next two years? Truly a miracle that all those "declining" players pulled it off. We'll probably never see such an elderly team win a cup again in this lifetime.

Funny how words work So what? So what? So because a player could maybe possibly bail in the future we should trade em. Good logic Einstein. 29 is too old for you, but FA's will more than likely be that age or older. More amazing logic. They're 24 Yeah, like the next 4 to 5 years

I'm not the one abandoning the discussion.

Answer to what? I didn't pose a question.

Didn't Zetterberg move from LW to C? Or am I getting that backwards?

Dingus: "The Red Wings have the maginot line, it will be 2 or 3 years before Seider can make the team" Seider: "My panzers will be rolling down Woodward by sundown"

Like I said, I'd chalk this up to difference in philosophy. Personally I'm fine with 28/29/30 year olds remaining on the team so long as they are working out and providing value on a decent contract. Selling them off feels like winding the rebuild clock back again. I'm not ready to do that yet, and would like to see a good push with the current core if we can. I'm ok with trading these players as I believe they are all 2nd tier players. However, I'd be looking for lateral moves (like adding an already capable Dman) not necessarily picks or prospects that we will have to wait on while Larkin continues to age. I'm not sure what you're trying to get at with all this. As I've said I'm perfectly alright with being competitive in the next two years. I just don't think it will be an issue Yzerman will force within the next 2 years based on the actions he's taken so far. Maybe the kids explode and force us into competition despite Yzerman's perceived "plan", and that forces the plan to change? I'd be ok with that. I'd rather build internally on what we already have (AA/Bertuzzi/Mantha) than sell them off and go seeking FA's to replace them. And based on Yzerman's track record building the bolts, I think he would agree.