ChristopherReevesLegs

This is why I trust and therefore defer to the experts/scouts. A reach is a reach based on what? Where Corey Pronman told you a guy should go? f*** Corey Pronman. If Yzerman took Raphael Lavoie at #6 overall, my opinion would be damn this Lavoie kid must be a lot better than anyone realized. Not "Yzerman isn't folowing BPA! What a retard"

The saddest part for Canada is the USA probably will eclipse them at some point in the future, and Football, Baseball, and Basketball will still be far ahead of hockey in the US. Sorry Canada, we just got a f*** ton of warm bodies down here. How are they combating high costs? I had great access to rinks growing up but my parents never wanted to fork over the dough for ice time and especially equipment. So I mostly had to learn on ponds and on hardknock suburban streets...

Myers at $8 mil for 7 years Just do the lockout already Panarin supposedly met with the Avs today. Pagnotta says Vancouver and Chicago are off of his list. I assume we were never on.

Really seems like USA, Switzerland, and Germany are on the rise, if only slightly so far, as hockey countries. That's just the general feeling I get. They'll probably never compare to the bonafide hockey countries, but it's a start.

Even though I liked Seider a lot going into the draft, I wouldn't have taken him at 6. But that's only because of the narrative built by the media and fans around who we should take. I probably would've taken Zegras out of obligation, even though I'm not infatuated with the guy or anything. I'm glad Yzerman has bigger cajones than I. And I think it's a very good sign of things to come. Stevie's wild ride has begun and there's no brakes on this train. Next stop: Winning. Corey Pronman can suck Yzerman's Florida sized dick

You've heard about Leftwinger and Owen Tippet... Now introducing the all new Kipwinger and Trevor Zegras!

Now you're just being anecdotal. Filip Zadina spent most of his professional career prior to being drafted shooting on Milan Kloucek (Who?), Patrik Cerveny (Who?), Brandon Maxwell (Who?), Alexis Gravel (Who?), and Blade Mann-Dixon (Who?). Guess his long terms success is in question. The Czech league doesn't produce enough players to get a translation factor either. Damn. Call them Puds all you want... but the CHL is filled with guys who will never even sniff the DEL. Meanwhile the DEL is riddled with guys who have already played 100+ or 200+ NHL games. There's even guys with 400+ and 1000+ NHL games played. He was in a mens league at 17 and his coach admits he was sheltered away from the Ozone and PP. He is expected to return to Mannheim to play the top pairing and the PP next season, unless the Red Wings opt to bring him to the AHL. When playing among his peers of the same age he is typically over a point-per-game Dman. You got me. Yzerman sucks at recognizing D talent. Clearly. I do trust the hockey media more than I trust a pro like Yzerman. After all, when was the last time he even developed a Dman. You're right. Why draft Seider when we can just sign Luke Schenn, or get another Dekeyser FOR FREE?

Are being sarcastic? I don't think Slovenia has produced a single NHLer outside of Anze Kopitar. Correct me if I'm wrong. I don't disagree with you, but I wasn't responding to that. I'm sure the USHL and AJHL and some other kids leagues produce a lot of NHL talent too. I just think it's apples to oranges. I take a kid keeping up and shining in the DEL at 17 more seriously than I do a kid blowing out the AJHL at 17, regardless of the amount of talent either league produces. Lets not forget, Germany doesn't produce a lot of young talent, but the DEL still has lots of former NHLers playing in it. Mannheim alone had Andrew Dejardins, Luke Adam, Marcel Goc, and like 5 or 6 other former NHL/AHL players on the team.

Yeah but by that logic high schools and midget programs in NA have also developed more NHL talent than the DEL. I have no problem taking talented players from non-traditional markets personally.

Basically, what KR said I think it's probably also some small nod towards Veleno, Rasmussen, and Athanasiou. Yzerman might feel more than comfortable with those 3 as future C's going forward. I certainty felt more comfortable at C than D before the draft. There are so few players coming out of the DEL that there isn't even a reliable translation factor. Factor for the AHL as of 2017: 0.47 For Swiss, Finland, and National College Hockey: 0.43 For College Hockey East: 0.38 For Big-10: 0.33 My guess is the DEL probably falls somewhere between 0.33 and 0.43 I think one of the reasons Seider was ranked 15 or below is because he was in the DEL. I think a player like himself would've been ranked around top10 had he played in Sweden or Finland or something like this. That's just speculation though.

Drafting Seider at 6 overall and taking 3 Dmen in the first two rounds, I think is a nod, however small, to Yzerman's confidence in our depth in our forward pool as well. Up front for a young forward core he has: Bertuzzi - Larkin - Mantha Athanasiou With Zadina, Rasmussen, Veleno, Berggren, Smith, Svechnikov, and Hirose on the way Out back for a young defense he has: Hronek - Bowey With Cholowski, McIsaac, and Lindstrom on the way That forward depth looks pretty nice going forward. Even if Svechnikov, Smith, Berggren, and one of Veleno/Rasmussen/Zadina were to bust you'd probably be alright in future years. On D however, if either of Cholowski or McIsaac bust the future looks pretty poopy. Adding Seider, Tuomisto, and Johansson to that list of potentials is a big step in the right direction.

I mean I didn't know s*** about him either, till the dude on HF boards said Detroit was taking Seider at #6 like 2 weeks ago. I started reading about him, and constantly found myself thinking "How is this kid not top 10". Instant fan.

From his own mouth: Detroit Free Press: "How would you describe yourself as a player" Seider: "Smart two-way defenseman who loves to join the rush, creating space for his teammates, but is also not afraid to play the body, ja"

Thrilled about this pick. Big, smart, mobile, RH Dman. Praised for his skating, particularly his speed going backwards. His intelligence and ability to read to the play. His gap control and board work. And expected to be a big minute eater. Offense is sort of an unknown, as he was deployed heavily in the D-zone and sheltered away from the O-zone this year. We know he has a good first pass and is smart and mobile. I've seen German fans praise his shot, but I dunno fersure yet. Two things I don't really see people talking about: His personality and adaptability. Everyone seems to sing praises about both. Adaptability wise he's known to adjust to new situations and challenges quickly according to his coaches. Basically, when thrown into sink or swim situations, he always finds a way to swim. The kid essentially went from German Juniors to being a top 4 Dman in their top means league at the age of 17. He will be expected to be a top 2 Dman for them next year at 18. Personality-wise he's known for his veteran level poise, leadership qualities, and strong-character. There's a quote from former NHLer Korbinian Holzer where he says playing next to Seider feels like playing next to a seasoned NHL vet. He's incredibly calm, doesn't panic, and reads and acts on plays expertly. In regards to leadership qualities... If Larkin wasn't on the roster, I feel like I'd be talking about this guy being a potential captain one day. Not sure if anyone watched the 9 minutes interview with him after the draft, but I was really impressed. If you look past how many times he humbly/modestly mentions how nervous he was, he strikes me as an extremely confident and well-spoken person. Especially for a foreign speaker. Kid had lockerroom leader written all over him if you ask me. I think if you draw parallels between Larkin sorta being the newest version of Yzerman... then I think we just drafted our Lidstrom.

By the sounds of it I think this is a real possibility. He defiantly should either be in the AHL or DEL

Andersson said about Grewe, a coach told him that every time they called the kid up practices got way more intense physically and he realized that every time this kid steps on the ice the intensity of the entire team goes up.

Which may very well have been bc Holland knew Yzerman was gonna take Seider. Lets not forget these two men were basically scouting together the entire season.

Yeah Hall's gonna be inclined to stay I think with Hughes and Subban on the roster. Good for them. Shero has now essentially traded Larrson, Santini, Davies, and two 2nds, for Taylor Hall and PK Subban. Damn

Went undrafted

Kid seems very comfortable in the spotlight. Very well spoken.

I genuinely wonder how Oil fans are feeling about Broberg. Taken high as well. Hayton actually did really well this year

Or maybe most teams had him in the 5-10 range. Dach went at 3. Was that a huge reach? I don't think so, the Hawks believe they have the best forward not named Hughes or Kakko right now. Who gives a s*** what the media pundits said where the kid should go. Could they have traded down? Sure maybe. But that incurs a lot of risk. You have no idea if the Rags right behind you have Dach up next. Yzerman's not an idiot. If that's the player he wanted and he knew Holland was right behind him also wanting him... Take your guy. You only get one shot in the first round to get the guy you want. If you want him get him. If Yzerman thought everyone 6-15 was relatively equal and didn't give a s*** which one he got, that's a scenario to trade back in. Yeah some dude called it

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