ChristopherReevesLegs

We have roughly $20 mil to spend this offseason. And after next season we have to re-sign Mantha, Athanasiou, Hirose, Bertuzzi, Bowey, and possibly Svechnikov. So I'd like to leave at least around $10-$12 million untouched in order to get those extensions done. That safely leaves a rough $10 million to spend this off season. If I had things my way we'd be pursuing both Karlsson and Panarin this off season. $10 million only really lets me pursue one. If Nielsen and Abby were off the books (I like Dekeyser too) I'd have around another $5-7 million to make that happen. So yeah in my mind it affects us as early as this offseason. We're handcuffed a bit. And don't get me wrong I will be absolutely ok when Yzerman doesn't pursue either Karlsson or Panarin and signs only depth players. I don't think we should shoot for the stars just yet... but I primarily think that way because we're handcuffed by fat contracts. If we were lean right now, I'd be wanting Yzerman to add a significant piece, or multiple of them.

? are you having a s***ty morning? I'm not really arguing that, at least that wasn't my intention if you took it that way. I'm not really concerned about these contracts, they're just... s***ty contracts... they represent $15 million dollars for the next 3 seasons. I didn't realize why that's bad needed to be explained. Look here, I'm alright with these contracts. Could the scenario arrive in the next 2-3 seasons that we don't want them around anymore? I certainly think it's a possibility. Especially if Yzerman is "different" and more aggressive. That's all I'm sayin'. Look here, I wrote a whole paragraph about basically why they're not that bad and why we should and probably will just sit on them till they run out.

I think Holland definately left us in a bad spot, and im a Holland fan. The reason we wont be competitive within the next 3 years is primarily these contracts. But i think yzermam could acclerate to the point we need to burn these sooner.

I just think Kraken is ***** AF and I'm glad Tippett realizes this too

Panarin to Florida. Told ya so.

No. I think we're alright right now with these contracts. But the moment we turn the corner and become a playoff team again we need to to start burning those contracts quick. They'll inpede us from signing or trading for guys like Panarin this year.

I don't think anyone will take abby for that price. Maybe Nielsen.

We haven't even seen the best one of the bunch yet in McIsaac

I really think we have a bonafide top 3 in Cholowski - Hronek - McIssaac Bowen would be a nice cherry on top thou

Game day threads used to hit like 50+ pages now they hit like 6

Exactly I think the desire by ownership to continue the streak is the underlying ill in most of this. Everyone who despises Holland really just wishes he would have started rebuilding sooner, and the streak is what kept him from doing that. When he finally got the green light to rebuild he was awesome again. Oilers have explicitly said he has full reign in Edmonton. So it's up to him if he wants to go for it or retool/rebuild. I expect good things.

Steve Yzerman to date: Signed Joe Veleno to ELC Signed Pat Verbeek to be AGM Sign Dylan McIlrath to an extension Let's see how long I can keep this going before I get lazy

Yeah no doubt if I wanted to leave it would be no problem. I just get the feeling that deep down Holland wanted to die a Red Wing. I would too in his position. But I also like 25 million dollars and apparently so does Ken... There's no way he can do worse than Chia. I think people will be surprised with Holland's handling of Edmonton in a good way. I think he needed a fresh start as much as the Red Wings did.

I agree with you. Priority has to be shedding these contracts. Unfortunately we're in a really bad spot. The buyout terms on all three are nightmares within themselves. No one is gonna trade for these contracts, and if they did we'd have to probably give good picks with them, which defeats the purpose of a rebuild. I wouldn't put it past Yzerman to do something drastic, because he's showed urgency in the past. But I think we will be sitting on all three for some time. We're a cash rich team and we can afford to do so. The cap is going up which will make these contracts look slightly better and give us more wiggle room. Daley and Ericsson are coming off the books at the end of Yzerman's first year, which alone will allow us to re-sign Mantha, Bertuzzi, and AA. The year after Glendening and Helm come off. Then the next year Nielsen and Dekeyser. Then at the end of Yzerman's 4th year Abdelkader will come off. Buyouts are more favorable when the player has 1 year left, so if we become competitive within this immediate 4 year window I would expect Yzerman to exercise that option at that point. AKA we have to be patient with these contracts. Maybe in two years or so the buyout options will look more favorable.

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Seriously. I've been at my current position for 3 years. I cannot imagine taking my job 100% seriously while also facilitating bringing in someone else in to take my job. Now make me GM of the whole company and gimme 20+ years with that company, I can't imagine. Holland will always be a class act.

Tippett said "The Kraken" is out for a name. Thank god. Dope twig.

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Regardless if it is or isn't true, Holland handled the whole situation extremely well IMO

The Red Wings never said they drafted Rasmussen based on need

Filip Larsson was lights out for his J20 team in Sweden as an 18 year old. Likely got watched by Hakan, and so we drafted him. After being drafted he comes to North America and in the USHL for one season and is lights out again. After that season he moves on to the U of Denver and was lights out all season again in college. Red Wings inked him to his ELC just a short time ago as soon as his freshmen season at U of Denver ended. He should be playing for Grand Rapids this coming year for the first time. Sateri is UFA right now and Rybar is RFA, but I'm not really too concerned about him competing against either of them if they are re-signed. Kids gonna continue the trend me thinks. This will be the biggest jump he's made though.

I guess after Burger King bought Tims, they lost all their coffee contracts to McDonald's. At least that's what my 2 minutes of research tells me. Makes sense. McD's coffee is pretty good now.

IDK what happened, I used to drink Timmy Ho's coffee, but it sucks now. McDonald's way better. Keep talkin' commie

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It's not for home defense really. Would be my doomsday rifle for when DJT goes full literal Hitler, or the Canadians invade. Both equally likely I'm sure. I use the classic pump action for home D. I think @F.Michael changed my mind to 5.56 for caliber though.