Prolix

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    Just now, MabusIncarnate said:

    I feel like a few games were ruined last season due to the frequency of challenges, and a skater being a 16th of an inch over the blue line having goals called back killing both momentum and the pacing of the game, it's an effort to restrict challenges and reserve them for instances that are more likely to be overturned. 

    A lot of challenges last year were more like "Well we have the challenge anyway, may as well stop the game for 4 minutes and have them take a look even though it won't be overturned"

    Then they should change 1.) what calls are reviewable, 2.) number of challenges, and 3.) how long it takes referees to review calls.

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    44 minutes ago, ChristopherReevesLegs said:

    Yeh but this says the Hungarians migrated into the Carpathian basin from the pontic steppe. Again, no where near Finland and Estonia. WTF?

    Not to derail the thread further but they, along with the other Uralic language groups, probably* originated from Siberia/the Urals. They went relatively south, the Finns etc. went north.

    It's a little less weird if you look at a different map projection: 

    Fenno-Ugrian_languages.png

    Edit: You get an event in the game Crusader Kings II about the settlement of the Magyars in current-day Hungary, so I read about this stuff before. :lol:

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    2 hours ago, kliq said:

     

    Who knows, maybe this year we become competitive, just barely don't make the playoffs and then land the highest pick we have gotten in years like the NYR and Chicago did this year.

    But that is the least likely outcome. You can't do serious long-term planning for a team based around literal chance. 

    Yzerman has to make choices now based around the roster now and the prospects in the system now. 

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    22 minutes ago, Dabura said:

    [...]

    We'll need one hell of a season from him if we're going to seriously challenge for a playoff berth.

    (Great post, sorry to extract just the last bit to respond to.)

    The big question, as I see it, is: does making the playoffs this season improve our long-term chances of being a consistently competitive hockey team?

    where "competitive" = challenging for Stanley Cups.

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    On 5/29/2019 at 6:34 AM, LeftWinger said:

    You trade for him now, so you can take advantage of one more year of him be younger. Whether he's coming here one way or the other, why wait until he's a year older? Trade for him, sign him for 8 years starting now or wait and sign him for 7 years when he's a year older. I make the trade and have a younger Trouba. 

    And fewer assets.

    What 'advantage' does a still-rebuilding team get from 'one more year of him be younger'? If management is convinced he wants to come to Detroit, they'll wait for him.

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    5 hours ago, mackel said:

    50% likelyhood of being a run of the mill NHL winger. Bust relative to hype and expectations.

    It seems to me that "hype and expectations" are a very bad metric by which to assess the success/failure of young players.

    The pick is gone. The only thing that matters at this point is obtaining maximum return out of the player who is now in the system. In some cases that might mean getting a trade return while the player is still overvalued based on the hype!, but other than that it makes no difference where a player was "projected" to play. You turn them into the best player they can become, because that is what is best for the team. 

    Draftees not reaching their projected potential is in most cases pure chaos and beyond that an issue with scouting/recruitment, not the individual. The only way a player can truly "bust", imo, is if they never make it to the NHL level - which I believe is a point only you are making ("30% chance"). 

    This is the same argument people have about AA: "we thought he would be X and he's Y!" Who cares? You have Y player. Use him. If he's not useful, get rid of him. But until you do that's still a playing asset. 

    (Players getting fat contracts based solely on hype! is the other possible negative outcome, but again that's an institutional issue, not a player issue.)

    (Edit: Also, player output at the ages of 18/19 is almost certainly not a reliable indicator of where they will be in 1, 3, 5, 8, etc. years.)

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    1 hour ago, krsmith17 said:

    I DON'T GIVE A S*** HOW THE PLAYERS FEEL ABOUT IT! IT ONLY MATTERS HOW I FEEL ABOUT IT!... And I want equal treatment of players, no matter the age... end rant...

    Not to cherry pick this conversation, but tbf that seems like a good way for a coach to end up without a job...

    Happens in every sport. If the players quit on you it's your job on the line, not theirs. 

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    10 hours ago, TLGTrico said:

    On second thought, I may have to disappoint you.  I'm considering jumping off the tank and cheering the team on with everyone else.

     

    Actually, the thought of passing the Rangers and falling to 8th just occurred to me so nvm.  And no this wasn't intended to be an April's joke

     

    And now I'm mentally flip flopping

    Think of it this way: would you rather that the young players who will be taking over the mantle in the next year or two be showing no signs that they can actually deliver?

    If things really were that dire-- if we were so utterly devoid of talent and spark, however inconsistent-- then drafting first vs. fifth was never going to make the difference in turning this team around. At least this way you have a budding framework that you can build around and coherently plan on dropping some good draft talent into. 

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    On 12/13/2018 at 10:15 PM, The 91 of Ryans said:

    Sure there's reason to believe he'll outperform his draft position. There's also reason to believe that 2/3rds of the league's amateur scouts, who had probably seen him a lot, obviously had doubts about his ability to translate success in the Q to the pros.

    FFS, it's not like he went un-drafted. Or is everyone taken in the second round or later a "doubt" to make it professionally? 

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    3 minutes ago, Dabura said:

    Another well-deserved loss.

    Hoping for a much better showing tomorrow tonight.

    It's been my suspicion (hope?) for a while that as the season goes on our overall lack of talent will begin to show. We're keeping games close, which is good, but really we're not ready to compete for anything yet. We were starting to ask too many quiet questions about sneaking into the playoffs lately. Back down to earth and back down into the lottery conversation is totally fine.

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