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Imo most fans know what our top prospects look like and there skill level floor/ceiling based on game tape and prospect profiles. Of course no fans know where these players will end up outside the top5 its a complete crapshoot but as a fan its fun to speculate.

Most intrigued to see the 3 Swedes Simon Albert Elmer but also Kirill Lombardi and Hanas. Pretty lackluster f tho to bad Kasper isnt playing.

Pronmans league wide ranking 2. Moritz Seider, D 9. Lucas Raymond, RW 32. Simon Edvinsson, D 67. Marco Kasper, C 80. Filip Zadina, RW 96. Elmer Söderblom, LW 122. Joseph Veleno, C 151. Jonatan Berggren, LW 165. Sebastian Cossa, G

Kasper will be top3 player from this draft.

Interesting that he has Zadina so high. "For now I see him as a second-line winger but I'm not ruling out him ending up better." Hes def more of a 3w right now not a 2w but imo has room to grow into that.

Pronmans list 1. Moritz Seider, D 2. Lucas Raymond, RW 3. Simon Edvinsson, D 4. Marco Kasper, C 5. Filip Zadina, RW 6. Elmer Söderblom, LW 7. Joseph Veleno, C 8. Jonatan Berggren, LW 9. Sebastian Cossa, G 10. Shai Buium, D 11. William Wallinder, D 12. Albert Johansson, D 13. Donovan Sebrango, D 14. Carter Mazur, RW 15. Theodor Niederbach, C Dmitri Buchelnikov, RW Liam Dower Nilsson, C Cross Hanas, LW Dylan James, LW Robert Mastrosimone, LW Jared McIsaac, D Redmond Savage, C Eemil Viro, D

Ya Mcisaac/Sebrango/Viro are Sproul/Ouellet/Backman. Happy we finally have blue chip prospects so we dont have to get overhyped about these scrubs anymore.

1 Seider/ 2 Raymond/ 3 Edvinsson/ 4 Kasper/ 5 Berggren/ 6 Johansson/ 7 Wallinder/ 8 Buchelnikov/ 9 Cossa/ 10 Soderblom/ 11 Zadina/ 12 Mazur/ 13 Veleno/ 14 James/ 15 Niederbach HM: Tyutyayev/ Dower Nilsson/ Hanas/ Lombardi/ Savage/ Buium/ McIsaac/ Sebrango

Your point is still lost. Less c should mean more opportunity to climb higher in the lineup. More w should mean harder time to get top6 mins. What role do you think Rasmusen was drafted for? should he be playing now?

Viro sucks.

It was a awful pick I dont think youll find anyone disagree with that. That doesnt mean he cant be a reliable 3w in the NHL. If you drop your wallet and $20 falls out and blows away are you going to take all the money out of the wallet and throw it away?

The man that healthy scratched Zadina is no longer employed by the DRW nothing to do with current management. SY probly called Zadina out by name to light a fire under him because he knows hes capable of more then hes shown. his d+2 was impressive. So Zadina gets more ice time with better linemates because were deeper at w then c? What kinda backwards logic is that? Since were so thin at c shouldnt Ras get more ice time with better linemates instead of being stapled to the 4th line? Its not really fair to compare Rasmusens d+5 season to Zadinas d+4 season. Ras just had his breakout season lets see if Zadina can have a breakout or at least build on last season.

Why do you think Zadina has got better linemates every year? Maybe management have a higher view of him then bobby and joey on letsgowings.com? Rasmusen has got looks with better linemates and hasnt looked better then Zadina imo.

Not having a contract with the Wings is irrelevent. Lashoff is the perfect pro to mentor these young prospects. Hes more likely to be top pair playing 20+mins/gp then Toledo. If Sebrango is Ouellet Viro and Barton are Backman and Sproul.

This here explains alot. Draft position shouldnt matter it def doesnt to SY. Pretty convenient to use last seasons stats Zadinas worst and Rasmusens best. Heres the breakdown by season. Rasmusen d+1: 0gp d+2: 62gp-8g-10a-18pts-0.29pts/gp-1.44pts/60 d+3: 0gp d+4: 40gp-3g-9a-12pts-0.30pts/gp-1.22pts/60 d+5: 80gp-15g-12a-27pts-0.34pts/gp-1.39pts/60 Zadina d+1: 9gp-1g-2a-3pts-0.33pts/gp-1.30pts/60 d+2: 28gp-8g-7a-15pts-0.54pts/gp-2.12pts/60 d+3: 49gp-6g-13a-19pts-0.39pts/gp-1.38pts/60 d+4: 74gp-10g-14a-24pts-0.32pts/gp-1.37pts/60 Each d+ season Zadinas been better then Rasmusen. Both had there best statistical seasons in there d+2 seasons. Zadina just needs to get 0.35pts/gp-0.40pts/60 to again better Rasmusen but obv he should be aiming higher then that. Both were drafted to high but if they can get back to there d+2 production everyone would be happy.

Try counting them again. I think Edvinsson will make the team over Kampfer but well see. Lashoff is still better then alot of the dmen on that team. Shine is probly better then Andreasson to. Not saying I would play Shine over Andreasson but dont be suprised if he does. yup.

Lashoff has been and imo still is 1 of GRs top dmen. Hes not going down to Toledo will probly still be top pair or 2 worst case. Walman and Pysyk will be on LTIR to start and SY will probly go 13-8-2. DET LD: Chairot/Maata/Edvinsson/Hagg/Oesterle RD: Seider/Hronek/Lindstrom GR LD: Lashoff/Mcisaac/Sebrango/Johansson/Viro RD: Kampfer/Newpower/Barton

Hes not getting top pair minutes in D ever or GR anytime soon. Lashoff and Mcisaac are ahead of Sebrango and dont be shocked if Johansson jumps him this season to. This is assuming Edvinsson makes it in Detroit which isnt a lock either.

He didnt play well but horrible is a stretch clearly wasnt himself. Doubt SYs putting much stock in a tournament he had food poisoning. Hell def have to step up his game in TC tho.

I thought you were talkin bout making it but your talkin bout top pair? lol Sebrango is around 10 or 11 on the LHD depth chart imo. Chiarot Maata Hagg Walman Oesterle Edvinsson Johansson Wallinder Buium McIsaac are ahead of him imo. 3 or 4 will probly be gone after this season but thats alot to pass to make it let alone top pair.

How has he hurt his value and chance to make the roster?

He was battling food poisoning all tournament lets see how he does in tc before writing him off.

Not sure how being the oldest player to win a wjc is impressive basically shoulda been aged out only for the shutdown last winter. I remember fans getting hyped for Ouellet thats basically Sebrangos ceiling. We dont need to get excited about these prospects anymore we have actual blue chip prospects to get excited about that will leave Sebrango in the lurch.

Zadina has more pts in less gp and a year behind in his development. Ras had his breakout this past season. Zadina could breakout this season like Ras and alot other 23yo players. Maybe he ends up overseas in a year or 2 but lets wait and see. Before you say hes not gonna have a breakout season getting less opportunity youd be right but noone knows what opportunity players are gonna get under the new coach and noone can predict injuries. Zadina probly starts in the bottom6 but could be a injury or 2 away from top6.

Rasmusen will continue to get less minutes more defensive situations and worse linemates because hes better defensively. Zadina will continue to get more minutes more offensive situations and better linemates because hes better offensively. The bold is false.