Jimmybigrigs69

Tampa was like fun money for him. Now that he's back with "sacred" Detroit he's fully adopted the Holland method.

Steve Dangle. STEVE ******* DANGLE. Said today on his podcast that he hopes Yzerman remains the Wings GM for a long time... bc of what a s*** job he's done. This front office has become exhausting. Any Wings GM not named Yzerman would have been fired by now. Seriously digest that.

>pay to rid of Fabbri >pay to get rid of Walman >sell Maata >take on gourdes cap to help a divisional rival >"we're going to try our best to make the playoffs, trades to improve were just too expensive" Yzerman is a scam liar. Actions speak louder than words. What actuallly pisses me off is his fence sitting. STOP ACTING LIKE UR TRYING TO HELP THE TEAM FOR PR AND ACTUALLY DO A REAL SELL OFF. Real fans would understand a sell off. A direction. Instead he does half ass BS and then blows smoke up our ass.

Directionless team loses How could this happen?

FIFY

Worst part is... SY's excuse for moving Walman and Fabbri was because he needed the cap space. Cap space for what? To sell again? To acquire the fumbling disaster that is Gustafsson? Regardless, we could have remained under the cap WITH walman still in the lineup. Call me when the scam is fired. Besides a few good trades - that he ended up squandering in the end - this has been holland lvl bull s***.

Like the agents said in the agent poll... there is no plan in detroit and its a very unstable franchise. Ive lost a lot of faith in the captain.

If I was going to add, the team to look at for me is Seattle. To DET: Gourde + Oleksiak To SEA: Veleno + Berggren +2nd + 3rd Seattle gains two RFA forwards and picks to help build the future of their club. Detroit gains a big nasty Dman for the playoffs who's still under contract for next season, and a rental replacement for Copp. Not to mention, SY also drafted Gourde and he has cup winning experience with TBL. Kasper - Larkin - Raymond Dcat - Gourde - Kane Ras - JTC - Tarasenko Soderblom - Motte - Fischer IR: Copp Oleksiak - Seider Edvinsson - Chiarot AJo - Holl Gustafsson IR: Petry

To answer the title question... A: Do something Sell or buy. Either is an apropriate direction to take this team based on where we sit. What is not acceptable would be another year of indecision and fence sitting. And based on HSJ's most recent article in the free press... I'm a bit nervous SY is going to do exactly that and sit out the TDL again. In it McTodd says that SY believes in this group, but the players should not expect the calvary to be coming. I get the feeling SY will do nothing of any significance again, and the team will continue to lack a true direction. Barely missing the playoffs is literally the worst position any team can be in. See the old thread: Becoming Minnesota. Imagine if we had traded Fabbri and Walman at the TDL last year, instead of giving them away later on. We would have had better draft position and more picks. Imagine acquiring one or two more depth players last year... we would have likely won, at the very least, 1 more game down the stretch and made the playoffs. We do not want to be a directionless team stuck in perpetual mediocrity. If SY continues this "we like our team" bit again this week I'm going to lose a lot of faith in the existence of any sort of "plan".

Scott Jonas "The Axe" Mahones

Just wanted to talk about one of the newest articles from the athletic: The agent poll Voting: Q: Best front office to deal with? 1. TBL & Minny (6 votes each) 2. Dallas (4) 3. Florida (3) 4. NYI, Philly, VAN, Avs, & DET (2 each) No comments in the article about Detroit in regars to this Q, but agents heaped a lot of praise on Jim Nill... "the classiest and most honest guy in the league" said one agent about Nill. Q: Most unstable and poorly run franchise? 1. Buffalo (6) 2. Ducks (5) 3. Chicago & SJS (4 each) 4. Carolina (3) 5. NYI & DET (2) Hawks and Wings recieved votes here because their respective rebuilds have been big "let downs" according to agents. One agent said about the Wings "theyre really unstable. There's no plan, though they may say there is one..." Disheartening to hear this... i wonder if these two agents represent Walman or Fabbri... or if their answer may be different without the early season lalonde struggles and firing... The agents also dragged Pat Verbeek pretty hard... basically saying he's very old school, grumpy, and a "ridiculous" arsehole. Draws lines in the sand and irrationaly sticks to them, and its hard to even get simple ELC contracts done with Anaheim. IMO I bet Verbeek reads these comments and wears them like a badge of honor... Q: Best ownership in the league? 1. TBL (7) 2. Leafs, Cats, and VGK (3 each) TBL bc Jeff Vinik hires good ppl and lets them cook. Doesnt micro-manage. Leafs because MLSE has more money than god, so they treat their players like gods. Only comments from this section... Q: Worst ownership? 1. Carolina (10 votes) 2. Buffalo (5) 3. Ducks & Nucks (2 each) Basically Dundon in Carolina micromanages everything and is basically the real GM. But with the recent sucess theyve had he probably wont stop this stiffling meddling behavior, as he sees the recent success as his own doing. Conversely, Ducks and Sabres owners are out to lunch, and dont have a hand the wheel. When sometimes they should... My personal takeaways: 1. Interesting to see the variety of personalities that the Holland & Yzerman brain trusts have produced. Normally I'd expect underlings to adapt and conform to their bosses style/approach and the front office's culture.... but you have Nill and Brisebois being gushed on about how nice and classy they are... and then you have Verbeek over in Anaheim being a total azzhole lol. Yzerman has some questioning his vision, but he at least got 2 votes for best office to deal with. I would be curious to see this poll done during the Yzerman/Verbeek years in Tampa. Their good cop bad cop skills together were probably intense. The little ball being used as the attack dog, but SY always there to reign him in when needed. Now it sounds like Verbeek is missing that steadying SY presence, as his AGM is Solomon, who is described as just as big an A-hole as Pat... which leaves me wondering... is Verbeek's presence something SY is missing...? He chose to take Verbeek with him to Detroit over Brisebois (the nice guy) even if Pat wasnt here for long. So does anyone think Horcoff Draper or Lidstrom has filled those shoes? We know Drapes and Lids pretty well... and I dont see it in them. I havent gotten that impression from Horcoff either, who's more involved with GR. 2. We fans probably took it a little far when we memed "yzerplan" into existence, but comments about "no plan" isnt good. And I have been worried about this. After some good trades and drafting early on SY has done some suspect stuff as of late. The bizarre departues of Kostin, Walman, and Fabbri. Picking no direction to go at TDLs. Failing to do backgrounds on Campbell and Vrana. A goalie carousel that continues to spin like mad and destroys the tenders on the ride (are we gonna ruin Cossa too?). Hiring his guy in Lalonde only to back pedal on that choice quick. Suspect contracts and trades for guys like Holl, Gustafsson, and Petry. Again, maybe SY needs a bully lapdog like Verbeek at his side. Someone who tells agents to eat a richard when they say "my client Holl wants $3+ mil a year". Whatever it is, IMO, SY has approached a lot scenarios with seemingly no plan lately. Unable to decide which way to go at last years TDL tells me theres no grand plan behind what were doing. Giving Walman and Fabbri new contracts, only to completely change your mind on that a short time later and pay to be rid of them, shows lack of planning and foresight. Constantly failing to notice troubled players in Vrana and Campbell (and possibly Fabbri and Walman) shows lack of due dilligence. Picking up bad coaches = more lack of due dilligence. I worry SY has taken his foot off the pedal a bit... He is basically immune to firing due to his status as a Wings legend, so he doesnt need to grind harder than others. He's returned home and built a room filled with all his buddies from his playing days. The best minds you could gather just happen to be Draper, Lids, Kronwall, your brother, Wallin, and Cleary? Hmmmm thats quite a coincidence that the best happen to all be your friends... My point being, even if his foot is still on the pedal, does he really have the best minds around him? We watched how the brain drain slowly destroyed Hollands teams... and mistakes are starting to pile up. "I only hire guys Ive worked with and trust" How's your trust in Lalonde these days Stevie? He wrecked that lil philosophy of yours pretty quick... Do we want to build an elite hockey club, or do we wanna build a kinda good one where all your buddies can have jobs and parade back through Detroit to reminice about the good ol days? We cannot just draft a Hakan guy early every year and then sit back and wait... Sorry for the negative post guys. I just think this front office might need a shakeup much like the bench did. Not Yzerman. His underlings. In the article agents talked about up and coming they think could become a future GM. Not one of SY's AGMs was mentioned. The instability of these last two seasons needs to get buttoned up.

Cool dumb take. Very possible Danielson is the better prospect in the long haul... but RIGHT NOW, on THIS GRIFFINS TEAM, Lombardi is far and away the the best player/prospect, and you'd be a moron to suggest otherwise...

So MBN made history as the first ever Norwegian to go in the 1st. And not low either at 15... But then, only 8 picks later, ANOTHER Norwegian in Solberg goes to Anaheim. And Verbeek traded up to snag him... MBN played in the Swedish league which is usually typical for Norwegian players, but not Solberg. Solberg actually achieved this playing in Norway... With Sweden struggling to produce good players recently, could there be a floodgate of Norwegian players coming? I've been reading about the Norwegian hockey programs recently because of MBN, and theyve built a ton of new rinks in the last 10-15 years. They are pushing kids towards hockey and getting good fast. Norway is also pretty dominant at the winter olympics, and they have really good training programs. They just haven't focused their energy on hockey... till now. I also find it suspicious that Yzerman and Verbeek took the two Norweegers. What do they know? Scandanavia is the Red Wings stomping ground, but we typically seem to shy away from Finns, so I was surprised to see SY AND Verbeek going all in on Norway. This could be one of the next untapped markets. If it is, I'm glad to see us involved. Hakan is going to have to brush up on his Norwegian.

Rock Me Amadeus Lombardi is by far our best Griffin prospect and makes Nate Danielson look like a pathetic joke. Carry on.

Not saying he's fake... saying he's the goalie in Xbox that everyone always drafts. Like when everyone was hot on Ty Rattie, cause when you drafted him on xbox he always became the next taylor hall. D'Aigle might be a decent goalie prospect. But I have some doubts bc of the Rattie-esque overhype. We also dont need another high end goalie proespect. Cossa has been good, and Augustine looks even better. f*** D'Aigle.

Who's been the DOG this year? I got three names I'd put forward: Chidog, Johdog, and Joedog. Chia - You wanna pizz like a puppy you stay on the bench. BIG DOGS go out on the ice and eat. Big Ben has done just that, eating big minutes with Mo. They were a disaster pair their first time together under Lalonde. But both of their games have evolved and Chia has been a dog of a partner for Mo since. AJo - Nothing fancy to his game but kid looks like he has longtime bottom 4 NHLer Dman stamped on him. Got the legs to keep up, and the defensive brain to stay employed. EZ dog IMO. Italian Guy - Don't let his greasy heritage fool you. Veleno is even worse... French-Italian. But boy is he a solid bottom 6er. Reminds me more and more of Emdogg each day. Who you got? One of these? Someone else?

If he's officially sent down "on paper" then no, he is back to AHL wages. EDIT: And he's not really losing money per say. He'll still going to be paid NHL wages for the time spent on the Detroit roster. Even if he spends the rest of the year in GR from here on out he will have gotten roughly 570K out of the max potential 886K he could have earned this yeae. Pretty good.. and pretty sure he'll end up a lot closer than that once he's back up.

One of my goals for 2025 is being more accountable. Not just being more accountable myself, but also holding others accountable as well. Brad Marchand is a forward for the Boston Bruins. You may have noticed some of his antics over the years, but like me, you kept the peace and your mouth shut. Now read this: https://xcancel.com/reporterchris/status/1890458915625709778?s=46&t=_XjleMNZelg_AVmJy7FfWA Quite frankly, I don't think this is enough. You don't get to just say sorry and go back to your mansion, not in 2025, no thank you sir. Brad Marchand has to go to jail. He needs to be brought up on charges in the hague and serve no less than 10 years for what he and his teammates have done. And cancel international hockey while were at it. Sorry Gary. You invited the nerd leaf kid to play and now, because of him, no one gets recess. Brad even admits: "THESE GUYS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH POLITICS BUT WE BOOED THEM ANYWAY" P U T H I M I N J A I L Why is he not in jail? No more games. Lets hold people accountable this year. We can't tolerate this kinda crap anymore. How many 12 year old American hockey kids went home that night and put a gun in their mouth? How many tried to OD on pills? Even 1 is too many. This is not good enough Brad.

Very underrated player. Gets ignored by the media because Seattle is a small market and he isnt a superstar that can carry the Kraken. But he's quietly very good. Get.

Isn't he the meme goalie from Xbox?

We're going to see Wang go #6 or something like Seider and everyone being shocked. Big smart agile Dmen are worth it 100% of the time everytime.

15 goals away. 39 yo. On pace for a 50+ season. New GOAT in town Grets ya washed up ol c***.

It is. And booing a tribute to a nations soldiers is another level of f***ed up. American soldiers have done far more for the free world than Canadian ones could ever dream of. Shame on them.

Anybody who passes on Haoxi Wang is going to regret it. He's easily going to be the #1 talent in this draft, in a redraft, in a few short years. He's barely 17 and he's already 6'6" and 215lbs, and he's the best skater in the draft. HES THE BEST SKATER IN THE DRAFT. His offense is going to explode out of him when he hits 19 or 20. SY should take him in the first round regardless of draft position. You don't pass on guys like this.

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