Jimmybigrigs69

Doing any draft nerds know if there are more Knuts in the coming draft class?

Norwegian

Easy: Urguay Faggetbjorn from Kysberg.

He aggravated a lower body injury and died

I keep forgetting that this team reverts to 2020 whenever Dboss goes down.

He learned trading up in the 1st round from Scam. Wonder if Ducks plans have named the verbeek plan yet

I thought Swedes and Finns are natural enemies? Like Swedes and Danes. And Swedes and Norwegians. And Swedes and Swedes.

Read on twitter that Truscott may be returning to UofM for an extra year that he's eligible for due to Covid.

A ton of Finns live in Sweden.

Yeah and Lolande said the same things. With Yzerman constantly talking about how we need to play better as a cohesive defensive unit, and stop trying to outscore our problems... Copp certainly isn't in Yzermans doghouse or on the chopping block I would think. Probably the exact opposite, getting butt pats. Copp also talks in that clip about the matchup nightmare his line created for opposing coaches. Other coaches quickly find out the Copp line is coming out against their own top line every shift. They don't want their top guys slogging it out against Copp/Ras/Fish while Larkin's and JTC's prey on their own lower lines, so they start breaking up their lines, moving their playmakers away from their scoring wingers, and now their chemistry and rhythm is all fuqqed up and theyre not breaking out as cleanly or getting the puck up ice quickly anymore, etc etc. I prefer what Copp did this year, rather than get 20 more pts on the PP for the sake of sexy numbers. It's had a cascading impact on the lineup.

And disobey Scams wishes?

Who are you going to replace Copp with? Ras, Motte, and Fischer don't really take draws. JTC does, but he's not particularly good at it, and is better at wing anyways. Veleno sucks at everything. Danielson or Kasper won't get shutdown duties as rookies. Best option in Copp's spot is probably... Andrew Copp.

I don't really follow any corsi stuff so idk what that means. Based on the matchups and wingers Copp played with I'm happy with how he played. And I expect he will probably generate more offense this year, as he's probably getting a big upgrade to his line with Tarasenko. Motte is also a decent PK forward, and will probably take some defensive burden off Copp. And I can't stress enough how important having guys like Copp, JTC, and Ras taking the defensive burden off of Larkin is. Larkin is an offensive player. We need him maintaining offensive pressure, not blocking shots. The presence of Copp allows us to do this. And it's been a major improvement for this team. Yeah, I'm a Copp guy.

Just stop with the Husso BS. You don't know what the two seperate injuries were. The only thing we have been told to this point is he is expected to be fully recovered and ready to start the season. Any expectation outside of that is baseless speculation at this point. Are we moving the goal posts on Copp now? You suggested he is one of the top candidates for the arbitration buyout. I'm telling you I think that's absurd, based on the critical role he plays in the lineup. We haven't even gotten into the weeds of the financials yet, and how messy/costly that buyout would be, which also makes it unlikely to happen. But I don't think that conversation is even necessary based on the players performance. Do I think Copp is overpaid? Yes and no. Had Copp been developed in our system I don't think he'd have the contract he has right now. However, that's not the scenario of how he came to us, and I think we paid fair market price for him on the open market. If your going to fill critical holes with UFA players you're going to give up AAV and term. And we had to fill those holes. Copp, Chiarot, and JTC were all given very lucrative contracts to come be a stabilizing force on a bad team. Copp probably doesn't love being a shutdown center with no PP time, but that’s the price he paid when we agreed to commit to him long-term. He's expected to be a good soldier and do what's asked of him, like eat the hard minutes others can't/won't. And Chiarot/Copp/Etc have been good soldiers so far. Which is why I don't think we'll see Yzerman lay a finger on any of those contracts... IMHO part of what SY is doing building a culture where guys who commit to the hard stuff, committ to systems, and soldier through, get put up on a pedestal. Veleno... you want 5 million dollars? Go play like Copp. You want top 6 icetime? Play like Copp. And just to be clear, I don't think Copp or Chiarot will be on a wings cup winning team. Maybe they will be on their next contracts, but not these. The idea of building through the draft is that we wont need to handout lucrative contracts to fill critical roles anymore. But that phase will come when these contracts are completed. Not bought out or moved.

I don't believe PuckPedia is correct here. That might be for his full contract, but buyouts still get shared by the teams retaining salary. I believe a Petry buyout would cost us $1.5 over this season, and the same caphit next season. Probably smarter just to keep him, or waive him. I'm not certain Tarasenko will play LW. He played LW for Florida a little bit, but I believe that's literally the only instance he's been on the left side in his entire career. I also don't think Motte will play much center. He's been used mostly at LW as of late. And Danielson shoots right. At defense, Gustafsson has played a lot on the right side over his career, so I think he'll go there b4 Edvinsson. I also expect Lagesson will get waived as soon as the season starts. Thinking this: Debrincat - Larkin - Kane Rasmussen - Compher - Raymond Berggren - Copp - Tarasenko Motte - Veleno - Fischer Keep Dcat and Kane together. Hopefully Kane gets cat scoring again. As much as I love the Ras-Copp-Fish line, I think we need to break it up and spread that defensive acumen around the lineup. We also have too many RWs now to justify Fish playing anything more than 4th line minutes. And I'd like to see Ras get moved up to a scoring line to get him some offensive confidence. Copp and Tarasenko are also good responsible vets for bergy to play with. Chiarot - Seider Edvinsson - Petry Maata - Gustafsson Johansson - Holl Chiarot and Seider played well together last time. I'm not convinced Eddog is a lock for opening night, but fuq it, I don't know what forward rookie would take his place on the roster... im also pretty convinced Newsy will keep giving Petry undeserved top4 minutes. And then yeah run 3 goalies. Seemed to me SY was happy with the 3 goalie thing.

Husso confirmed he had two SEPARATE injuries, and did not reaggrevate anything existing. He also commented that he returned to play before he was fully healed in both February and April causing setbacks in recovery. Furthermore, Yzerman commented that both injuries were not serious and will not require any offseason surgery, as well as the fact that Husso will be healthy to start the season. There's absolutely nothing to suggest that Husso will be on LTIR. Patrick Kane is a soon to be 36 year old coming off experimental lower body surgery with the wear and tear of 1200+ games under his belt. He also went down in February with a lower body injury. And now he's doing his first heavy training offseason in years. Why are we not engaging in baseless speculation about Kane possibly perhaps maybe starting the season on LTIR? Larkin just had offseason surgery. Heck, he'll probably be on LTIR with Husso and Kane too. Can't trust these reports that explicitly say that that isn't the case... But again, Scott suggests LTIRing Husso to be a vegas-style playoff weapon, based on absolutely zero info, and you take the bait hook line and sinker per usual... Oh lordy First of all, Copp was not signed for 6 seasons. We signed him for 5 @ $5.6 But more importantly, you're flat incorrect about his usage. He's not deployed as a "bottom 6 checking forward". He eats top 6 minutes. Larkin had his icetime reduced this year. And lost his spot on the PK unit to JTC. And no longer takes the toughest matchups... now Copp's job. WTF??? LARKIN NO LONGER AN $8.7 200FT FORWARD???? Nah, Lalonde has just refocused Larkin towards offense, and Copp towards defense... Copp taking Larkins old duties. Which is the first smart thing a Wings coach has done in a long time. You do not want your best offensive player spending time and energy blocking shots on the PK. And again, SY has brow beaten us with "becoming a better defensive team" this offseason, and Copp was literally the spearhead of that last season. The Ras-Copp-Fischer line easily being our best line on far more than just a few nights, shutting down opponents. Copp is also the only natural center on the team besides Larkin. Veleno blows at everything, and I love JTC, but he's far better at the wing. Copps not going anywhere my dood, let alone being bought out. He and Chiarot are the backbone defensive pieces of this team. And you should know that from watching the games.

You didn't answer my question about Husso. What is the injury he has that is you suspect is likely to reoccur? Thank you for the info about arbitrations and buyouts. I understand it a fair amount being the one who originally brought it up regarding a Husso buyout... "I don't care what Copp does for the team" You lost all credibility right there. Hockey isn't all about pts. As soon as you learn that you'll understand why guys like Copp and Chiarot get paid and why guys like Ghostbear have to sacrifice 2 million to get a small amount of term.

??? News to me. What's the injury specifically? My point exactly: You haven't been paying attention. Copp plays the hardest minutes of any forward on the team. He's our #1 PK center, and his line is consistently used as the matchup line against other teams top lines. You see 33 pts, but don't have any clue to the context in which that player is deployed or how those points are earned. Cancel out powerplay pts, give Copp better matchups and better linemates, and he's probably ahead of JTC on the score sheet. But since he's probably the best defensive forward on the team, he's asked to be a shutdown player. And SY has routinely said this offseason he's trying to improve the overall defense of this team. Buying out your #1 shutdown center is the antithesis to that goal. I'm not surprised to see you mention Chiarot either. Another player fairweather fans with little to no understanding of defense don't appreciate. Even though he's Lalondes most trusted defender besides Seider... I don't care if you care to absorb any of this, but the notion that Copp and Chiarot are going anywhere in the near future is beyond foolish. Scott literally trolls you guys with this stuff and you eat it right up lmao.

Husso is fully healed and ready for training camp. Wtf would you LTIR a below average healthy goalie? Stop being purposely retarded. Copp is nowhere near a buyout, and if you don't understand that you havent been paying attention.

He'll block any trade that takes him away from Bakersfield

Not sure where Truscott fits after signing Laggeson. We have Wallinder, Buium, Laggeson, Viro, and possibly Eddogg down the left side in GR. Assuming Eddogg joins the Wings and Viro goes to the Walleye, there still doesn't seem to be much space.

After Velenos arbitration buyout Husso and then buy a Dman. Fact that Talbot got a 2 year deal spells the end for Husso to me. Now that Seattle has Montour they are loaded on RHD. I've mentioned this guy b4 here - Will Borgen - get him off the Kraken. He'd be a poor mans 4th D but better than what we have and young and cost controlled. Another name still out there as UFA is Justin Schultz

C: Larkin A: Kane? Raymond? Debrincat? Copp? Compher? A: Seider? Chiarot?

Talbot isnt black? Thats how not racist i am. I didnt even notice.