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Now that the Isles have swept out, due to lack of veteran leadership, they'll be calling soon for the price of getting Nielsen back.

didn't see a 2nd round thread for SJ v. COL, so I will put this here since it has to do with off season stuff. At first I was not hoping the Sharks advance, but while looking around I was reminded of the Nyquist trade conditions: So, I now hope that SJ at least makes it to the Finals so we can get the upgraded 2nd rounder! ( I know its a 2020 pick, but didn't want to start a 2020 off season thread yet! )

I would hope no more than Vanek's contracts.

Sorry, i realized you guys were talking about Dats daughter, so I switched it from Yzerman, but it is still fate nonetheless.

Hmmmm, Datsyuk tp Detroit, Datsyuk daughter to Wisconsin, Cole Caufield commited to Wisconsin, Yzerman might draft Cole at #6, Cole and Datsyuk daughter start dating in college....hmmmm....

Get ready folks, Dats is coming back. Remember when the rumblings started about the possibility Dats would retire? It all started with a Tweet and some chatter. Everyone said no, he'll finish his contract, he wont just leave. Well here we are, a Tweet and some chatter. Let me be the first to say, welcome back Dats. A lot of us were mad you left, including me, said some bad things, but its water under the bridge, we'll see you in the fall.

Helm & Cholowski to Winnipeg for Trouba, Nielsen to Isles for a pick, disney.com to Toronto for Gardiner (sign and trade) Larkin, Datsyuk, Veleno, Ehn as your centers. Put Abby back with Dats and boom, 20 goals again. Bert - Larks - Mantha AA - Datsyuk - Abby Zadina - Veleno - Hirose DeLaRose - Ehn - Kufner Rasmussen in GR to start. Ok, ok, I'll stop.

Very nice!

I said this back when the rumours started. Why on Earth would he play for anyone else? If he comes back, it'll only be for Detroit. I bet he feels he owes the fans, the organization. What if Yzerman drafts Podkolzin? Maybe Datsyuk will be instrumental in making his choice to come to NA easier. Scouts have been uncertain whether he'll go to the KHL or come over. Also, this would pretty much guarantee #13 goes to the rafters too. Talk about a mentor to have as well. It'll make Nielsen expendable. May be he'd get traded to a contender. I've always pictured him going back to NY via trade, maybe they come calling if they fall short this playoff. I'm good if they sign him. Isn't gonna hurt for a season. It can only help.

I didn't want green back. I want Yzerman to take a shot at Karlsson.

The trade is in the works. e5.

Yzerman will get him either way.

The point of the question was under the pretence that Winnipeg is done signing 1 year deals with him and 100% trades him this summer before they do lose him UFA next summer.

Cholowski for Trouba anyone?

According to Helms NTC, starting in 2018-19 season, it can be voided between June 15, 2019 and trade deadlinbe 2020, because the Wings already failed to qualify for playoffs.

Ya, AA and Mantha will Probably get $5.5M each at least. Good news is about $7.5M of that we'll get from E and Daley coming off. I get it guys, I get it.

Cap is going to be between $83 and $85 million. Z and Franzen gives us over $10M extra. Buyout or trade Daley, dump one of Abby or Helm, it's not out of the question, but if it meant getting Karlsson, I'd take Nyquist over Panarin. Besides I never said Panarin was my exact target, I said Yzerman goes after high skill and wouldn't be surprised if he targeted him and that would not be a bad thing. But you notice in my last post, I did not mention Panarin when I said I'd keep E if it meant for sure getting EK. I'd take both, or either or though. EK first, then Panarin, but if EK has other plans, I'd take Panarin BY HIMSELF too. And no, I won't be disappointed, because Holland is no longer gm, so we've already won the off season by getting Yzerman back!

If Turcotte and Caufield sneak into the top 5, it means great things for us! So here's the question, if BOTH Byrum and Cozens are there at 6, who do we take? Shades of last draft. I'm at a loss.

If it helps get EK here, I'll keep him, re-sign both Kronwall and Nyquist.

Carolina will probably re-sign him unless his ego prices him too high. I was always a Mrazek over Howard guy, but I don't have any tolerance for players who have this attitude. Of course it works the other way as well, management cannot low ball them either. Good for Petr and the Canes. I'm still on The Isles wagon though.

His track record is nothing even remotely the same as Holland's. Build through the draft sure, but he has signed and traded for a lot of the talent on his team too. He will not be like Ken Holland. I didn't say he turned down the 3x3, I said Holland chose to give Bernier the 3x3 when Lehner was cheaper and was rumored on UFA day last year on "The Free Agent Frenzy" to have contacted the Wings via his agent. It is what it is, Thanks GOD Ken Holland is no longer the GM! Helm can be traded after June 15, 2019 because he failed to fulfill the clauses in his NTC.

So he was injured this year and played 53 games. The last 5 seasons he played (in reverse order) 71, 77, 82, 82, 82. What about that makes you think he will spend a "good portion" of his contract on IR?

I think Yzerman is going to surprise a lot of people. This is no longer business as usual. Building a Cup contender doesn't mean sit on your hands. Yzerman will hit the ground running. I am 100% confident he will at tender offers to some BIG UFA's when the period starts. The old way is gone. If Yzerman acquires any UFA's, it will not be the Witkowski, Del Zotto, Filppula type. He is an aggressive GM, he is not going to waste UFA money on fillers. If he signs UFA's they will be high skilled difference makers. Again, this is no longer a Ken Holland philosophy, I don't know why you guys think he is all of a sudden going to change his style he's had the past 8 years in to Ken Holland's stale crap. He didn't build Tampa by going about business like Ken Holland. Ken Holland is out as GM, Yzerman is not Ken Holland's clone, I expect Yzerman to run this team like he ran Tampa. Again, it's retarded to think that he is going to just come here and do the same old Ken Holland crap. Why hire him then? Why would it be dumb to acquire (if able to) Karlsson and Panarin? Do they not turn this franchise in to a playoff team? All of those game we loat in OT or by 1 goal in regulation could be turned into 1 goal wins with these 2 players alone. Those would be two huge pieces to add to this team. If its affordable, I don't see why it wouldn't make sense. It's not only Cup contenders making these signing's, it's teams looking for important cogs that will make their team better. If you have the money, why not inquire?

Have we heard any word on whether or not Green will be ready for camp? He had that virus pop back up and that could really play into Yzerman pursuing a #1 guy via UFA.

I go back to that game in Detroit where Ovi needed one more goal to surpass Fedorov as the highest scoring Russian in the NHL and Mrazek stone cold blanked him that night, and Ovi had something like 10-12 shots on him, it was a sight to behold!