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  1. Since we have officially been eliminated, and the Tatar thread has basically turned into an off season discussion, I have created this to focus all of our ideas about this summer in one spot. The Draft Topic Thread is still open and being used, so lets try to keep this to UFA/RFA Signing's, Trade's, Buyouts, Retirements, etc... Obviously all eyes will be on John Tavares this July, if he isn't dealt at the draft. It has been discussed that money won't be an issue because a good chunk of teams will be able to afford him, so it comes down to making your team the most attractive destination. While we aren't on the cusp of a Cup, we do have a lot of other attractive features in order to lure him here. It's not like we have no future in here, he would instantly make our club a playoff contender, and we do have a handful of great young kids here. Of course drafting Dahlin would help out for sure! Also I think if the stars align with Dahlin and Tavares, it would make Detroit an even more attractive destination for Karlsson in 2019. If we could afford him... ...speaking of cap, in last nights radio broadcast, Paul Woods said that the Cap may increase to upwards of $82M for next season. That would be great! In addition to wanting JT here, I want to run a trade proposal past you guys. How does this sound? Trade the Las Vegas 1st round pick to Arizona for Max Domi and 2018 2nd? (which was originally Minny's so it wouldn't be too high of a high 2nd) Also, if we fail at JT, is there any other UFA you'd like to go after? I'm thinking JVR would be a bad back up prize.
  2. Should The Wings Re-Sign Mike Green?

    I can't tell you how wrong this is on multiple levels. That thinking (keeping kids in minors for "more ice time") is what has turned this franchise into what it is, broken down garbage. Kids can learn by practicing with NHLr's and watching and observing from the press box. More than they can learn dominating career AHL players once again in the minors. There comes a time when philosophy has to change, and since our is the only one in the NHL that hasn't, nearly every franchise has passed us up.
  3. Fun Fact: With all the hooking and subtle interference clutch and grabbing allowed in 02, NO WAY the 08 team gets as much room as they did. Fun Fact: Avs Series Franzen does not, ever, NEVER score two hattricks on 02 Patrick Roy. Reason why he got two in 08? Theodore...Oh and again, taking rule changes in to consideration, NO WAY 08 Datyuk and Z outplay or are better than 02 Fedorov and Shanahan. Fun Fact: If rules never changed between 1997 and 2017, the 1997 Red Wings beat the 2008 Red Wings. Again, if 08 team had to deal with all the clutching and grabbing they aren't as dominate and if 97 Wings had so much free ice without the clutching and grabbing and hooking, OMG! Bottom line is you really cannot compare 08 to any of the other 3 because of the rule changes. FWIW, I take all four of our Cup teams over any of the other Cup winners in that 20 years!
  4. Should The Wings Re-Sign Mike Green?

    after tossing it around a bit, I change my opinion to No. depending on who we draft, I'd like to see XO dealt as well and have 2-3 KIDS make the roster come October. Hoping of course one of those is Dahlin. Kronwall - Daley Ericsson - DD KID - Jensen Kid - Kid ...depending on your FWD/D combo.
  5. Official 2018 Off Season *Rebuild* Thread

    That is why I said, the likes of Daley, E, Kronwall, DD and if Green is signed, aren't going to lose their jobs, I'd even go as far as saying Jensen is pretty safe, let them sit 99% of the pre-season games let 4-6ish D-kids compete for one or two spots against XO, if any one or two of them out play XO, keep the kid and drop XO in some form. Pre-Season D XO - Draft Pick Cholowski - Hronek Hicketts - Sarijaarvi/other draft pick
  6. Official 2018 Off Season *Rebuild* Thread

    Roster 13/8 WITH Green and XO Bertuzzi - Z - Nyquist AA - Larkin - Mantha OPEN - Nielsen - FRK Abby - Glenny - Helm Witko Kronwall - Daley DD - Green Ericsson - Jensen XO - OPEN ...any combo of taking away XO or Green makes TWO open D spots. Roster 14/7 WITH Green XO Bertuzzi - Z - Nyquist AA - Larkin - Mantha OPEN - Nielsen - FRK Abby - Glenny - Helm Witko - OPEN Kronwall - Daley DD - Green Ericsson - Jensen XO ...again, any combo of taking away Green or XO would leave a spot to compete for even with only having 7 D.
  7. Official 2018 Off Season *Rebuild* Thread

    I feel I shouldn't even get into a debate with the 4lifer, but when was the last time Witko played D, he was more used as a forward in the latter stages of the season. You don't HAVE to have him on D. As a matter of fact on CapFriendly he is listed with the FWDS. IF you kept him as a FWD that would make 12 spots up front (without Booth) and 6 spots on D, 5 if you trade XO. Most teams carry either 13/14 forwards or 7/8 D. If you trade XO and sign Green there is 6 D, TWO spots open. Still TWO spots open up front if you go 14/7. ONE AND TWO if you go 13/8. Hicketts and Hronek are not guaranteed a spot but they are included when I say have the kids compete for a spot or spots. If we sign ALL our RFA's here are the guaranteed players: Zetterberg, Abby, Helm, Glenny, Nyquist, Witko, Larkin, Mantha, Frk, AA, Nielsen, Bertuzzi. That is TWELVE (12) Forwards WITH Witko. Leaving 1 or 2 spots depending on 13/8 or 14/7. Kronwall, Ericsson, Daley, DD, Jensen, XO. That is SIX (6) D. Opening up TWO spots if you go with the 13/8 combo. Re-sign Green, it is still ONE spot open if you go 13/8 combo. If XO gets traded or waived we're back to TWO spots 13/8. So if we don't get Dahlin, and we DO re-sign Green and DON'T trade XO, if Holland goes with 8 D, that is still ONE open spot for our draft pick (if its a D) and our younger players to compete for. If Holland goes 14/7, then the D is full (with Green and XO staying) but then there are 2 spots still open up front. I do like the forwards you suggest to fill up the lines. and BTW, the only echo in here is your IP Address...
  8. Official 2018 Off Season *Rebuild* Thread

    So, if Green is coming back, that'll leave ONE spot unless XO is dealt/waived. Still TWO up front. What players do you guys think are going to make the jump. I know the Ras situation, I figure he will get a spot up front, sending him back to Jrs. will just hold him back from further development. If Holland is true to his word about the kids coming in, then Ras should be on the opening night roster. Hopefully proving me wrong with his play! Any goalies out there intrigue you guys? I'd like to see us sign one that will at least push Jimmy either to step it up (ya right) or push him right back to the bench.
  9. Our draft position

    I believe that Jensen will stay around because he is a good (nicely paid) 6/7 D-man as our D gets better. I am not saying Hicketts is above him ATM on the scale, but until we see what shakes out this draft and training camp, he would make a solid bottom pairing with Jensen. I liked Green, I guess it would not be the worst thing if he re-signed, but I am not in favor of it because we have Daley, Ericsson and Kronwall as the "Vet presence" and God I hope DD re-finds the reason(s) that 30 teams wanted to sign him a few season's ago. Back to our draft position, I really believe that any D we draft NOT named Dahlin with out 1st has a damn good chance of making the team out of this year's Camp. Obviously Dahlin would be nearly a shoe in to make the team, but think about the quality of D in the top 10, we haven't drafted any one D-man of their caliber in a very, VERY long time! IMO, Hughes, Bouchard, Boqvist and Dobson already have skills that are better than most of our D in our system, and some on our NHL club. Like i mentioned in a different thread, the top four "vets" on our team aren't going anywhere, they have a spot come October. They should sit most/all pre-season games and let our D kids compete for those two spots. ESPECIALLY our 1st pick this draft and Cholowski.
  10. Holland and Blashill expected to return

    IMO, if you're the owner of this team and you want Yzerman as the GM, you don't "ask" Holland anything, you tell him that he's being promoted.
  11. Holland and Blashill expected to return

    Oops, Must have gotten buried... Nevermind, I guess there is a thread already about it....great vid none-the-less.
  12. Holland and Blashill expected to return

    Potentially the greatest video ever made! And no, it's not me!
  13. Our draft position

    I noticed on the list (and the whole one at eliteprospects.com) that there is another Foote, Suzuki and Bertuzzi gonna be drafted in 2019. Cal's brother, Nick's brother and Todd's son.
  14. Our draft position

    ...and no, don't even mention Franzen as a joke.
  15. Our draft position

    The more influx of high end draft picks, the more we can and will attract that 27 year old UFA in his prime down the road. Mantha, Larkin, this years high end pick, (plus the 3 late 1sts) and next years high end pick, will no doubt help this team with the high end "home grown" talent, but then we can go back to adding a 27-30 year old UFA or two here and there to make us that much better. Here are some of the top prospects for the 2019 draft: - Alex Newhook (F) Victoria Grizzlies BCHL 45 22 44 66 10 - Kaapo Kakko (RW) TPS U20 Jr. A SM-liiga 38 25 30 55 16 - Peyton Krebs (LW) Kootenay Ice WHL 67 17 37 54 40 - Dylan Cozens (C) Lethbridge Hurricanes WHL 57 22 31 53 20 - Arthur Kaliyev (LW) Hamilton Bulldogs OHL 68 31 17 48 20 - Jack Hughes (C) U.S. National U17 Team USDP 24 13 35 48 10 - Alex Turcotte (C) U.S. National U17 Team USDP 39 15 32 47 14 - Kirby Dach (C) Saskatoon Blades WHL 52 7 39 46 12 - Samuel Poulin (LW) Sherbrooke Phoenix QMJHL 55 16 29 45 42 - Ryan Suzuki (C) Barrie Colts OHL 64 14 30 44 10 - Nolan Foote (LW) Kelowna Rockets WHL 50 13 27 40 31 - Henri Nikkanen (F) JYP U20 Jr. A SM-liiga 50 20 18 38 10 - Dmitri Sheshin (F) Stalnye Lisy Magnitogorsk MHL 51 12 26 38 12 - Xavier Parent (F) Halifax Mooseheads QMJHL 63 13 16 29 30 - Albin Grewe (C/RW) Djurgårdens IF J20 SuperElit 36 10 17 27 54 - Bowen Byram (D) Vancouver Giants WHL 60 6 21 27 52 - Sasha Mutala (RW) Tri-City Americans WHL 68 11 15 26 28 - Alex Vlasic (D) U.S. National U17 Team USDP 52 8 18 26 18 - Marshall Warren (D) U.S. National U17 Team USDP 52 6 19 25 26 - Matthew Robertson (D) Edmonton Oil Kings WHL 67 7 17 24 44 ...and here is just an example of some of the UFA available come 2020, when hopefully we'll be on an upswing and attractive to some players. (of course having JT and or Karlsson on our team beforehand would help too.) 1. Nicklas Bäckström UFA 30 C Left $8,000,000 $6,700,000 2. Alex Pietrangelo UFA 28 D Right $7,500,000 $6,500,000 3. Patrick Marleau UFA 38 LW, C Left $4,250,000 $6,250,000 4. Braden Holtby UFA 28 G Left $5,000,000 $6,100,000 5. Taylor Hall UFA 26 LW, C Left $6,000,000 $6,000,000 6. Corey Crawford UFA 33 G Left $5,000,000 $6,000,000 7. Ryan Callahan UFA 33 RW Right $4,700,000 $5,800,000 8. Mikael Granlund UFA 26 C, LW, RW Left $6,500,000 $5,750,000 9. Tyson Barrie UFA 26 D Right $6,000,000 $5,500,000 10. Mikko Koivu UFA 35 C Left $5,000,000 $5,500,000 11. Justin Schultz UFA 27 D Right $6,000,000 $5,500,000 12. Nathan Horton UFA 32 RW Right $3,600,000 $5,300,000 13. David Clarkson UFA 34 RW Right $3,250,000 $5,250,000 14. Torey Krug UFA 27 D Left $5,000,000 $5,250,000 15. Jared Spurgeon UFA 28 D Right $5,500,000 $5,187,500 16. Mike Hoffman UFA 28 LW, C Left $5,650,000 $5,187,500 17. Zach Bogosian UFA 27 D Right $6,000,000 $5,142,857 18. Brayden Schenn UFA 26 C, LW Left $4,500,000 $5,125,000 19. Andrew MacDonald UFA 31 D Left $5,750,000 $5,000,000 20. Andy Greene UFA 35 D Left $5,000,000 $5,000,000 21. Alex Galchenyuk UFA 24 C, LW, RW Left $4,900,000 $4,900,000 22. Sami Vatanen UFA 26 D Right $4,500,000 $4,875,000 23. Justin Faulk UFA 26 D Right $6,000,000 $4,833,333 24. Craig Anderson UFA 36 G Left $4,000,000 $4,750,000 25. Carl Söderberg UFA 32 C, LW Left $4,000,000 $4,750,000 26. Martin Hanzal UFA 31 C Left $4,000,000 $4,750,000 27. TJ Brodie UFA 27 D Left $4,838,000 $4,650,400 28. Clarke MacArthur UFA 33 LW Left $4,750,000 $4,650,000 29. Chris Kreider UFA 26 LW Left $4,000,000 $4,625,000 30. Tyler Toffoli UFA 25 RW, LW Right $4,800,000 $4,600,000 31. Troy Brouwer UFA 32 RW Right $4,500,000 $4,500,000 32. Christopher Tanev UFA 28 D Right $5,250,000 $4,450,000 33. Dmitry Kulikov UFA 27 D Left $4,333,333 $4,333,333 34. Michael Frolík UFA 30 RW, C Left $3,000,000 $4,300,000 35. Craig Smith UFA 28 C, RW Right $4,750,000 $4,250,000 36. Jonathan Ericsson UFA 34 D Left $4,250,000 $4,250,000 37. Evgeni Dadonov UFA 29 LW, RW Left $3,600,000 $4,000,000 38. Jake Muzzin UFA 29 D Left $4,450,000 $4,000,000 39. Marco Scandella UFA 28 D Left $4,750,000 $4,000,000 40. Mikkel Boedker UFA 28 LW, RW Left $3,000,000 $4,000,000 41. Roman Josi UFA 27 D Left $4,000,000 $4,000,000 42. Johan Franzen UFA 38 RW, LW Left $1,000,000 $3,954,545 43. Travis Hamonic UFA 27 D Right $4,875,000 $3,857,143 44. Cody Eakin UFA 26 C Left $3,850,000 $3,850,000 45. Matt Beleskey UFA 29 LW Left $3,000,000 $3,800,000 46. Justin Braun UFA 31 D Right $3,800,000 $3,800,000 47. Jacob Markström UFA 28 G Left $4,000,000 $3,666,667 48. Michael Stone UFA 27 D Right $3,500,000 $3,500,000 49. Vladimír Sobotka UFA 30 LW Left $3,000,000 $3,500,000 50. Radko Gudas UFA 27 D Right $2,500,000 $3,350,000 51. Thomas Greiss UFA 32 G Left $3,750,000 $3,333,333 52. Brenden Dillon UFA 27 D Left $3,900,000 $3,270,000 53. Charlie Coyle UFA 26 C, RW Right $4,250,000 $3,200,000 54. Trevor Daley UFA 34 D Left $2,200,000 $3,166,667 55. Patrick Eaves UFA 33 RW, LW Right $3,000,000 $3,150,000 56. Sam Gagner UFA 28 C, RW Right $3,200,000 $3,150,000 57. Jean-Gabriel Pageau UFA 25 C Right $3,400,000 $3,100,000 58. Conor Sheary UFA 25 LW, RW Left $3,000,000 $3,000,000
  16. Whipping Boy

    you'll like him when JT gets here!
  17. Official 2018 Off Season *Rebuild* Thread

    Looking at the roster, if we don't re-sign Booth or Green that leaves 2 open spots up front and 2 open spots on D for kids to make the roster 13 and 8. We also need a B/U goalie. Do you think Holland just puts Coreau there or does he look to UFA? Are there any NCAA goalies out there that are undrafted or unsigned? 13/8/2 with Witkowski being able to rotate if needed. Bringing up 4 kids would be a good thing if we don't land JT or if Holland doesn't bring back Vanek.
  18. This is the official LGW.com 2018 NHL Amateur Entry Draft to be held June 22–23, 2018, at the American Airlines Center in Dallas, Texas. Ok, since we are all (most) hoping we get a legit shot at the #1 pick, I figured a thread to discuss the prospects and where they rank would be a nice thing to have! We can also update draft rankings as they change throughout the season. Here is a September ranking I found of the top 93 prospects, but I'll only post the top 31. I'll add the link at the end for those of you who want to see all of them. This site also has some videos of some of the players to watch! Check it out and come back and comment! While I am officially throwing my hat in the Dahlin ring, I'd like to note that #20 has an absolute Awesome name! Also of local note, I haven't research all of the players, but #7 Hughes and #12 Wilde are both Wolverines. At #61 Johnny Gruden is from Rochester, MI. #39 Ty Dellandrea plays in Flint. Another sidenote for one of our 2nd's, Mattias Samuelsson is a huge D-man at 6'4 216lbs. at the moment. 1) Rasmus Dahlin (LHD, Sweden, Frolunda SHL) 2) Andrei Svechnikov (RW, Russia, Barrie OHL) 3) Adam Boqvist (RHD, Sweden, Brynas J20) 4) Brady Tkachuk (C/LW, USA, Boston University NCAA) 5) Filip Zadina (LW/RW, Czech Republic, Halifax QMJHL) 6) Joe Veleno (C, Canada, Saint John QMJHL) 7) Quinn Hughes (LHD, USA, NTDP U18) 8) Ryan Merkley (RHD, Canada, Guelph OHL) 9) Ty Smith (LHD, Canada, Spokane WHL) 10) Rasmus Kupari (C, Finland, Karpat Jr.) 11) Jesperi Kotkaniemi (C, Finland, Assat Liiga) 12) Bode Wilde (RHD, USA, NTDP U18) 13) Ryan McLeod (C, Canada, Mississauga OHL 14) Barrett Hayton (C, Canada, Sault Ste. Marie OHL) 15) Jared McIsaac (LHD, Canada, Halifax QMJHL) 16) Oliver Wahlstrom (C/W, USA, NTDP U18) 17) Joel Farabee (LW, USA, NTDP U18) 18) Alexander Khovanov (C, Russia, Moncton QMJHL) 19) Vitali Kravtsov (C/W Russia, Belye Medvedi MHL) 20) Jett Woo (RHD, Canada, Moose Jaw WHL) 21) Calen Addison (RHD, Canada, Lethbridge WHL) 22) Evan Bouchard (RHD, Canada, London OHL) 23) Jakub Lauko (C, Czech Republic, Chomutov Extraliga) 24) Isac Lundestrom (C/LW, Sweden, Lulea SHL) 25) Jack McBain (C, Canada, Toronto OJHL) 26) Luka Burzan (C, Canada, Moose Jaw WHL) 27) Akil Thomas (C, Canada, Niagara OHL) 28) Benoit-Olivier Groulx (C/LW, Canada, Halifax QMJHL) 29) Dmitry Zavgorodniy (RW, Russia, Rimouski QMJHL) 30) Samuel Fagemo (LW, Sweden, Frolunda J20) 31) Mathias-Emilio Pettersen (C, Norway, Muskegon USHL) https://thehockeywriters.com/2018-nhl-draft-fishers-top-93-preseason-rankings/
  19. Official 2018 NHL Amateur Entry Draft Discussion Thread

    Tkachuk. Not a bad piece at 8 eh?
  20. Our draft position

    Don't forget complacency. They are set in their ways.
  21. 2018 NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs Thread

    At this point, I don't care who wins the Cup, just someone please knock off the Penguins!
  22. Official 2018 NHL Amateur Entry Draft Discussion Thread

    On the O side, it seems Zadina has passed Svechling into the #2 spot, but because of his local ties I'll say if we're going O, Svechling would be Holland's 1st choice, after that: Zadina Tkachuk Farabee Wahlstrom Hayton Looking further down with our 3 more picks, a ranking I saw had Noel at 22, Miller at 30 and Samuelsson at 31. If they inched down a wee bit, we could haul in a draft that could rank 2nd behind 1989.
  23. Official 2018 NHL Amateur Entry Draft Discussion Thread

    On the spot time. You're Holland, you're drafting a D with your first pick. With the obvious #1 being Dahlin, what is your order preference after that? For me, because of our need of a RH puck mover first: Dobson Bouchard Boqvist Hughes Really though, they're all elite and IMO can ALL challenge for an open spot this season. Trade XO, do not re-sign Green, that leaves two spots to vie for. If Hicketts is going to be a 6/7, with Jensen or injury replacement, we need to give our draft pick every chance to win a spot in the top 5.
  24. Our draft position

    What have you done with the rest of our Current D? You mention giving Karlsson top dollar, that will be next summer, we'd still have DD, Daley and Eriksson under contract at that point.
  25. Holland and Blashill expected to return

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nhl/john-torchetti-will-not-return-to-detroit-red-wings/ar-AAvYYL2?ocid=spartanntp&ffid=gz Yep...