LeftWinger

It doesn't matter. I'm trading our 2019 1st for a guaranteed #1 overall in 2020 (in your scenario) I'm not even getting a top 10 in 2019, but I may have 2 others after reading Nyquist and Howard. I just used #10 for Vancouver as an example, maybe it'll be #27, who knows, who cares, I have the lottery 1st over all in that same draft. Or maybe I swap 2019 1st round picks and still have the 2020 #1. Or, yes, even if there was no trade involved, I'd be perfectly happy with getting #6 this year and #1 next. Not that we would not be in great shape if those were reversed either.

Right, but the OP was whichever 1st you keep you win the lottery. So I get the #1 in 2020 and Vancouver #10, let's say all for trading our 1st to Vancouver for a chance for them to get the 2nd Hughes.

I go for 2020. I trade our 2019 1st to Vancouver for their 2020 1st. They'd love a shot at Hughes x2, I'd then have 2 top 10 picks in 2020 including one of which is Alexis, the legit sniping winger we need!

Hypothetical, lets say Nielsen waives his NMC/NTC to go back to The Island, what would you expect in return? They have very little draft picks this year to offer.

Pitt and St.Louis bidding war forthcoming! Nyquist is on fire! He should be dealt before he cools to get maximum return! How about a package of Howard and Nyquist to a team for ultimate return!

Holland, don't even think about!

I still say bring The Whalers back! There are a lot of whales that are in Puget Sound our near Seattle itself.

Well then you have three more seasons after this one before he is "ditched." So it's gonna be a while until his spot is open. Apologies, using the term "ditch a player" usually means dealing him away, especially when they still have most of their contract left.

IF this team keeps playing the way they are, they are going to find themselves in the playoffs, which pretty much eliminates us from being sellers, but I hope it does not turn us into buyers. Playoffs or not, I hope that we sell off at least Jimmy and Nyquist for high picks or prospect(s.) We can always revist re-signing them in July, but they may BOTH be looking for significant raises, which I hope we DON'T give them.

Dekeyser will probably never be traded. I do not have a narrative, that's the liberal media.

Nobody is stocking my wife's suite with anything unless that suite is in the afterlife. But I am flattered that you are thinking of her! Thanks!

Huh? Aged? I don't care if anyone responded or laughed about it. I hope you're aging well. I was talking with another fan on twitter after that game, he said he hopes Hronek gets the call, I said ya, but knowing Holland it'll be Lashoff. Joking of course, but I'll be damned if he didn't stay true to form. He's horrible. I hope Seattle really does hire him and soon!

SMH.

Typical Holland. I called this on Twitter the night DD got hurt. That is all. Goodnight.

Not even remotely similar. Forget it, teams never trade players to keep from having issues re-signing them due to poyential salary issues anyway. Not ever, in any sport. I'll go back to tying kids shoes and wondering why the whistle blows when the puck goes down the ice. Speaking of which, I wish they'd bring back the glow puck, I can't keep up. Enjoy.

Whoa! Looks like I'm late to the party! Actually, kinda glad I wasn't at this one. It looks like it was getting hot in here!

Tick tock. Announcement will be coming....

Zadina?

Yet the spear was ok. I get it, Bert should not have dropped his glove and punched him, maybe if he just swatted him with the glove on, there would have been no suspension, but if Calvert didn't jab his stick into Bert, there would not have been a maul by Larkin or a punch at all by Bertuzzi. IMO, outside of the normal NHL shenanigans that go on at the bench, players hold sticks all the time, even NHL Player Safety said so, but if Calvert would've just left his stick after he could't get it, maybe there would have been a interference call on the bench, but when Calvert speared at Bert, that is when the problem really began. There should have been discipline of some sort for both sides.

Well, 30 other teams learned that they can spear our guys on the bench and not get disciplined, so that precedence has been set by @NHLPlayerSafety. hype... In other HYPE news, I am sure Stevie Y will be at the game tonight, officially watching his Lightning, but in reality watching and evaluating players/coaches futures on HIS team in red.

Pertaining to the draft, I do not think Green is going anywhere until next season. Howard and Nyquist are most likely the two that will be dealt. It's been said that Pitt, Philly and St. Louis are three very interested teams when it comes to Howard. Nyquist controls his destination, so I'm sure he would only waive his NTC to go to a legit contender, so Nashville could be quite a possibility, BUT they have ZERO prospects that interest me, nor even any recent unsigned draft picks. They'd have to reward me handsomely with TWO 1st's (2019 and 2020) if they wanted to pry Nyquist from me. Then again, Nyquist controls his destination, so if he'd only waive for Nashville, then they'd have the upper hand. Pit didn't have a 1st last draft and they lack a 3rd this draft, it may be hard to get their 1st for this draft, but I'd take the 2020 1st along with Calen Addison for Howard and our 3rd this draft. Nyquist should get us a 1st from any of the contenders that have one to give. Buffalo has potentially THREE 1sts this draft,so they could easily give one up for a player like Nyquist, having so many they could even sweetin the pot up a bit more in order to outbid others plus they are inner-division. Maybe a 1st and Mattias Samuelsson. The rest of your scenario there is for another thread. But real quick, I don't see Helm, Abby nor DK being dealt. Not even when Yzerman takes over. Not unless there is an offer we cannot refuse. But, I am also pretty sure they aren't going to waive their NTC's to go to Ottawa. Here is my what I'd like to see: to PIT : Howard, 2019 3rd to DET : 2020 1st, Calen Addison then to BUF : Gus Nyquist to DET : 2019 1st, Mattias Samuelsson

I love how people think that the users on here are just a bunch of fanboys who don't know anything about the sport except shoot, pass, score. Enough of us have been around long enough to understand a lot of the business workings of the NHL as well. Obviously we aren't in the business (or are we? ) and do not know all the inner workings, but its not beyond reality to understand that some of us understand more about the game from many standpoints, than just shoot, pass, score, raise cup. I truly believe that if given the opportunity, some users on here could actually do the job, and do it better, that numerous former players and coaches, management do now. Some of the brightest hockey (or sports in general) minds have not even been discovered. Most just lack the formal "education" or "background" that teams usually require.

Nope. Read my original post. It has nothing to do with his $925k. That salary will not be there next season, he's an RFA and would get a raise. Trading him and acquiring a prospect on a 3 year ELC takes re-signing Leivo out of the equation, thus leaving more money on the table for others. Nowhere did I say they had to clear cap for THIS season. So, go pwn that. If he would've just read the post, there would have been no question as to what I meant. I said RE-SIGN not clear cap now. Everyone fit under the cap this season. They may have needed a roster spot, but they had a few guys that they could've sent down that didn't have to clear waivers. They traded him because they needed a roster spot and needed the money for next season. He was a victim of the market. He's a great prospect and will get top 6 minutes in Vancouver, plus hell get about $3M a year after thus ELC expires in July. Toronto would not have been able to give him that with the cap crunch they'll have in the summer so they got something for him. He was collateral damage.

We'll when you have $23M in cap and about $20M of it will go to Marner and Matthews, factor in other FA's there wouldn't be much left to give him much of anything.

Next year dude, next year. They would not have been able to afford to re-sign him with Marner and Matthews taking up mot their space. I did say won't be able to RE-SIGN HIM in my initial post. Did you read it or were you just looking at an opportunity to LOL? Gee....look there are the words RE and SIGN, meaning give him another contract, when this one at $925k is up, after this season, as in July 1, 2019 and not being able to because Marner and Matthews will take up most of the $23M in cap, meaning they had to deal him away instead of not being able to, here it is again, RE-SIGN him.