LeftWinger

I was just gonna say, damn, how many players are they going to have to trade in order to fit Karlsson under the cap!?!?

But he is a natural center, so maybe that is why his instincts are to not go into the corners and battle all the time. Maybe that is why he does every so often and loses battles sometimes. He'll get there.

Yes, Hicketts has one more year left of waiver exemption. https://www.capfriendly.com/waivers-calculator/joe-hicketts#results

Veleno

Ya, I really thought he was going to be great here.

Ya, I was just mentioning players who may be asked about come TDL other than Vanek (or Green.)

Thankd for all the info! I love the lines! That top line has points written all over It! Heck so do the 2nd and 3rd! It's pretty telling when the Wings inside man is not counting on Z being there. Oh well, guess no 1000 points for him. He had a great career. Seems too short. Btw, shouldn't this all this talk be in the 2018 rebuild thread?

Meh, there's no need to trade him this time. Like NEO said above, well get our picks for Nyquist and Howard...maybe even Ericsson or Daley. Heck, even Nielsen is on a M-NTC now. The names Helm and Glendening are always mentioned by teams as well. Of course we aren't trading all of them, but if Holland can get a 1st for Nyquist, a 3rd for Howard and let's say a 2nd for Daley, we'd be looking good for the 2019 draft.

Wtf? It's like one of those Mark Dice interviews! Can't wait for him to give props to Rosa Parks for not giving up her seat on the team bus on her way to becoming the first Female goalie to play the NHL.

We're gonna have 5 kids in this year's line up. We need the vets. We wanna compete for the playoffs. We need to get younger and faster and bigger and harder to play against.

I think no one is mentioning it because they don't want it to happen. But, as negative as it could be, let's look at the positives that could come from it. Larkin would take over as our #1 guy, he would play all the important minutes and become the elite player we hope he is. It opens up a roster spot and a ton of cap room. I listed a team before without Z, but tool some slack as I put AA in the #2 C spot, but even if he played Wing or was #3C, I am sure we'd be ok without Z. Well not 100% ok, but we'd survive and move forward with kids. Mantha - Larkin - Zadina Nyquist - Nielsen - Vanek Rasmussen - Helm - AA Abby - Glenny - Bertuzzi I'd love to see Svech and Valeno make the team, but it would take some trades for sure. Maybe 2019 after the TDL.

I've said that if AA would bring us back a top line D, then I'd be fine with him being traded. By Trouba "talk" I didn't mean here, I meant around the league.

Here some stuff to discuss instead of who's better than AA. https://mynhltraderumors.com/nhl-rumors-st-louis-blues-patrick-maroon-detroit-red-wings-andreas-athanasiou-tyler-myers/2018/07/09/ Still haven't heard any rumors or talk about Trouba. Wonder what is happening with Faulk.

I am not so sure about Weber, but if Minny wanted to entertain me with Suter, I'd make a deal for him. Under the same circumstances of him playing out his entire contract.

9 goals in 4 games and 4 goals in the rest of the entire playoffs. He dominated one team, invisible for the rest. But hey, he threw down Kanes mouthpiece.

Start the hype! Calder Trophy come on down! https://www.capfriendly.com/players/filip-zadina What number do we expect to be retired in 20+ years? 11 or 18?

So, if he's not traded, I don't want to see any of these haters cheering for him when he lights the lamp. You've made your beds.

At least someone gets it!

Honestly I think there are enough centers on this team that is Z did go LTIR, (which BTW we could save up to $6.083M if needed I believe) to replace his roster spot. Larkin, AA, Nielsen, Helm, Glenny. Imagine these two top lines: Zadina - Larkin - Mantha Rasmussen - AA - Betuzzi (or any other combo of those 6) followed by: Nyquist - Nielsen - Vanek Abby - Glenny - Helm

I'll quote myself because I think this will be similar to what happens: If everyone is healthy, and there are no trades I feel the roster would look like this: Zetterberg, Larkin, Nyquist, AA, Mantha, Vanek, Nielsen, Abby, Helm, Glenny, Bertuzzi, Zadina, Rasmussen. (Witko as #14) Dekeyser, Green, Jensen, Ericsson, Kronwall, Daley (Witko as #7) There is just no room for a 23rd player under the cap. Unless Larkin and Mantha surprise us and take a combined $1M to $1.5M less, which would allow Frk to stay.

Never stopped Brett Hull from being a HoF'er. BTW, here: Here are his goals from 16-17, most of them are NOT breakaway goals. I don't get the hate for AA. He is EASILY the most electric player on the team. I get that he could and would be the first name listed in a trade for a D-man, but he is one of the top 4 best players on the team. I am thinking that These haters are the same ones that booed Fedorov.

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I know who Z is, and I know you're referring to Zadina as well, but you list Z, ZZ and Z2. Who is Who? AA i s better than a deserves to be in top 6 over Nyquist. Nyquist-Nielsen-Vanek is a great line in the 3rd slot.

There were only 4 regulars that weren't a minus last season. Nobody higher than a +3. Larkin was a -9.

Ya, again, only dominated 1 four game series. First two full years of Franzen...36 points. 22 goals. First two full years of AA...62 points. 34 goals. Give AA linemates like prime Z and Dats, we will see if he can score 30 goals...which Franzen has only done once btw. Anyway, nobody said he was Franzen, but he can take over a game with his explosiveness. Btw, when you're wining 5-0 and barely hold on to win 5-4, that 5th goal is hardly a game winning goal.