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I have to disagree. Quite the impressive variety of goals. After watching I am even more glad we re-signed him.

Not saying AA is Franzen, but ease up, Franzen took over ONE series in ONE playoff year, Colorado 2008. He had 9 goals in 4 games that series. But he only had 4 more goals in the other 3 series. Then in 2009, he had 12 goals in 23 games. The other playoffs he was totally invisible. So no, he never took over entire playoff series, one after another for multiple consecutive seasons. He played ONE four game series where he took over. Much like his entire career. 10 goals in 4 games, disappear for 25 games after.

oops my bad! ya Nyquist is supposed to be there. Fixed it.

Hicketts, nor Hronek probably will not be here, unless Kronwall goes on LTIR. Witkowski will be both the 14th fwd and 7th D. Waive Frk, sign Zadina, make one of the 4th liners a healthy scratch. That is the only way we're going to see both Ras and Zadina in the opening day line up. Mantha - Larkin - Zadina AA - Zetterberg - Ras Nyquist - Nielsen -Vanek Abby - Helm - Bertuzzi Maybe deal Glenny or Helm away.

we have $6.1M left, add in Franzen's $3.9M and that is $10M Ras - $894k Zadina (ELC soon) $925k Mantha $4M Larkin $5M Frk minus $1M (waived) equals cap ceiling, basement dwelling lottery team. Bring on Jack Hughes. Unless Holland still has a trade in mind, its gonna be a rough year with that D. re: AA signing, its a good fair deal, I am an AA fan and am glad he got signed, but if he could be dealt to bring in Faulk or Trouba, then I am good there too. IF he stays he needs to be in the top 6.

Ok, I don't believe Holland will make deals to open up spots for Ras and Zadina. I too see Nyquist being dealt, but not until the TDL. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against signing AA. But honestly even if we waive Frk, where are the two rookies gonna fit. I really don't see Helm, Abby or Glenny being a healthy scratch. I also don't see Holland making a deal to start the season. We'll see.

There will be no trades. There will be no kids up. Frk will be #13, Witkowski will be both #14 and #7 D. We'll be right up against the cap again. Top paid team and in the lottery. Once again Holland peed down our backs and called it kool-aid. And we all drank it. There was entirely zero sense in signing Vanek, Green and such an expensive back up G if we were going hope to see 2-5 kids on this team this season, like he promised. There is absolutely no reason, nor rhyme, to have Ras and Zadina go back to Jr's. but they will, and the rest will go the GR.

Let's no forget Sergachev will get a huge raise in two seasons. Most of their current D have NTC's and I would be surprised if any of them waive it to go to Ottawa. If Tampa is the front runner, don't know how they'll fit him. I'm sure Foote will be so happy to go to Ottawa as well!

AA and Svech.

Calvin DaHaan to Carolina. So with him and Hamilton, and Bean looking to make it to the NHL, could this speed up the Faulk trade?

Ready or not, here we come.

If all it would take was AA, 2019 2nd, 2020 1st, I'd be all in for sure.Thats one less asset than I suggested and same draft picks. That would be great.

Illuminati confirmed. What's sad is, Toronto won the $11M man, and STILL has $20M+ in cap space (including Horton's LTIR) and only needs to sign (promote) 5 players up front and 1 defender to have 14/7/2. Sheesh...I thought Holland was the cap genius. I know they are going to have to be careful because they are going to end up paying Matthews $11M-ish next season as well, but at least for one year they are looking pretty good money-wise.

I just don't think we should give up FIVE QUALITY assets (or more) for him. Plus, like I mentioned, being in the same division, the price may be even higher. PLUS you'd have to clear cap for his $11.5M (at least) and Ryan's $7.5M. That is why, I believe, Holland said no thanks to the sweeps. Anyhow, if he were interested, you'd have to think that AA, Svech, Cholowski would be included in that, PLUS our next two or three 1st's. I am not sure even that would be enough. You may HAVE to include Mantha, and that would hurt us, losing all those assets, more than adding Karlsson would help us. If Trouba became available, I am pretty positive it wouldn't cost that much.

I honestly would not trade Larkin or Mantha for Karlsson. I may be in the minority, but I believe those two are pillars in our resurgence. Zadina has pretty much made AA tradeable, along with Nyquist at the TDL. We do need to move forwards to acquire that D-man, but if I'm moving good young forwards and high draft picks, I'm pursuing Trouba. What will Karlsson look like 9 years from now? What would Trouba look like 8 years from now? I'm putting my money on Trouba being still pretty good between the ages of 24-32 than Karlsson at 28-37. I think Trouba would cost less to acquire, but heck, he may never become available. It's not like we are hearing his name thrown around quite yet. So, lets say you are all in on Karlsson (you have to take Ryan as well) so you have to give up a lot of picks and young talent along with clear cap. What is your offer? (what is Ottawa asking for, do we know?) (also I am sure it would cost more trading within the division as well.)

Possible deal for Trouba still? I'd love to get Karlsson, but the price is probabl WAY too much, plus I don't think Holland has the cap to take on the Ryan contract. I think it would cost less (still expensive though) to acquire Trouba. Re-signing him would be a snap, being that he is from here. Honestly, looking at the two, even though Karlsson has the Norris and pedigree, I think it would be more beneficial for the Wings to pursue Trouba. If Trouba becomes a tough re-sign again in The 'Peg, wonder what the asking price would be? I've stated before that acquiring Trouba, plus all the higher end talent we have drafted up front could very well allow us to give up a 2020 1st in a package without missing a beat in our rebuild. I'd even be ok with it being a NON lottery protected 1st. Would you do AA, Helm, 2020 1st, 2019 2nd for Trouba? Or would it cost a bit more in NHL players? Would you replace the 2nd with Cholowski or Hronek? What does Winnipeg need? If they are trading Trouba, they may need a young D prospect, and I am sure they'd love AA on a line with Laine. re: Zadina IMO he (and Ras) have to be on this team in the fall. We need to make a deal or two in order to make that happen. As mentioned Frk would probably be the first casualty, but then who next? Do you revisit the Glenny to Toronto deal? Does a 5th round sound too low now if it meant having Zadina and Ras on the team? Babcock loves him so Glenny. Or do you go a different route and try to deal Nyquist? I believe if they do deal him, it'll be at the TDL for a nice return like Tatar's haul we received. Nielsen now has a M-NTC that includes a 10 team no-trade list. Would The Isles be interested in re-acquiring him? They have plenty of cap room, and are in need of a center now. He's no Tavares, but he is a bit better than Filppula. I doubt he gets traded though. Bottom line is we need to have Zadina and Ras (at least) on this team this fall. I'd also love to have Veleno there, but I don't think he will be. So we really need to open up 2 roster spots up front (you can pretty much count on Frk getting waived) for this to happen. Somehow, someway... It would be an injustice for either of those two to go back to juniors. If we waived Frk and dealt Glenny, I'd love to see something along the lines of this: AA - Larkin - Zadina Nyquist - Zetterberg - Mantha Ras - Nielsen - Vanek Abby - Helm - Bertuzzi (some players interchangeable of course) (this is not reflecting a Trouba trade, if we acquired Trouba, we probably could open up 3 roster spots up front. Problem solved.)

Forgot where I read it, but it stated that The Wings were hoping Hronek earns a spot out of camp. Made no mention of Hicketts or Cholowski. If I run into the link again, I'll post it.

or the Iles should revisit acquiring Jimmy Howard. BTW Daniel Renouf to Carolina. 1 year $650,000.

wouldn't that be a crazy turn!

Mathews for Karlsson.

RECENT TRADES DATE TRADE DETAILS Jul 1, 2018 Tage Thompson · $925,000 Patrik Berglund · $3,850,000 Vladimír Sobotka · $3,500,000 2019 1st round pick 2021 2nd round pick Sum: $8,275,000 Change:+$775,000 Ryan O'Reilly · $7,500,000 Sum: 7,500,000 Change:-$775,000

So Mrazek signs with Carolina, Coreau with Anaheim. It was about this time last year that a lot of us felt that those two were going to be our tandem moving forward....yet Jimmy still stands!

Green got a NTC

If he stays healthy, gets utilized correctly (I'm looking at you Blashill) he may get 25-30 goals. Besides, he had very good chemistry with Nielsen and Helm. If not being able trade him this TDL means we flip (possibly)Howard and Nyquist, I'm good with that.

I love AA, but I'm hoping for a deal for a defenseman sometime this summer. I wonder what the price for Trouba would be. Honestly we may be able to afford to give up a 2020 1st in a package. We basically got three top 15 players this draft and Berggren seems like he may have been a steal in the 2nd. If we're a lottery team next June, we'll get yet another high end talent, so if giving up one 1st rounder in a package to get someone like Trouba, we probably won't take any steps backwards. I know Holland probably took his phone off the hook for the day, but I still would like to give Duclair a shot for a season or two. Seems like a low risk high reward situation. I think he may have meant that Zadina is eligible to play in GR. Is he?