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Kenny in April: We can't have a team full of 5'10 defensemen. We need some RH'd shots back there. Kenny at Draft: With the #6 pick in the draft Detroit Chooses Quinton Hughes. J/K! This would be the old Kenny, is there a new Kenny? WE'LL SEE!!!!!

We desperately need RH'd shooters in our top 6? Not gonna say it....its over and done. But ya those two would rock! Too bad we'll probably never realize that situation. Maybe Bouchard and Dobson will be gone and Holland deems Wahlstrom BPA.

Damn! If we could somehow swing that, Wow! I am sure the price would be astronomical though!

This is funny. Now you guys want Holland to choose a concussion risk over others just to see my reaction? Wow! ...and @Buppy I did say that if for some unheard of reason he was available still at our pick in the 2nd, absolutely draft him. My only concern is if all 4 defensemen are available at 6 I'd hate to take the one with the health risk. I am not saying he is not as talented as the rest, hell offensively he is probably more electric than Dahlin. I am not tearing him down. They all bring something to the table that we need on D. My only thing is, if all four are what you need, you have to look at intangibles that will eliminate them. Need a RH'd D? Hughes out. Three remain, all equally talented. How do you dwindle it down to the one? You have to look at health history along with everything else. Look back over the life of the draft thread, I've never advocated NOT drafting Boqvist. ONLY choosing the best and HEALTHIEST player available. My point about the doctors is, a lot of players that were cleared to play again by qualified doctors ended up being forced to retire/LTIR due to concussion symptoms. That's it. If Holland is told the player is healthy, then that is all he has to go by, medically, but he can, and should use his own judgement especially if there are 3 more equally talented players available. If he becomes a Red Wing and remains healthy for 20+ years, awesome! That is what I'd hope for. Don't get my point skewed. That'd all I'm saying. @marcaractac You bring nothing to this conversation with your trolling, which is against forum rules, so move along.

No. If Bouchard, Dobson or Hughes are there, you take one of those. If Boqvist is the only one left (which means 4 out of 5 takes D, then you take Offense. You cannot use you highest pick in decades on damaged goods.

Absolutely!

..and for you too. https://www.si.com/nhl/photos/2013/04/17nhl-careers-ended-by-concussions#8 each and every one of these players were cleared by doctors to play, as was Franzen. ALL were forced to retire/LTIR because of concussion symptoms. You don't have to be a medical expert to know drafting a player with concussion issues already would be a huge risk, whether or not a REAL doctor says he is clear to play. But please, continue to try to troll this thread with your useless input to the conversation. Hockey expert!

I am SO ******* tired of the bigot thing! I am NOT a bigot towards Swedes! If I were I would not have liked Lidstrom, Holmstrom, Samuelsson (the first time around) Monster as our back up, a healthy Kronwall, Zetterberg, Karlsson, Hedman, Sedin twins or OEL. Good ******* lord stop already! Just because I don't like Nyquist and Franzen and for the most part Ericsson (although I gave him many props last season) DOES NOT MAKE ME A BIGOT! I even advocated Dahlin AND Boqvist up until the concussion issues were found out. I just don't think it's be worth the risk, especially if Bouchard, Dobson and Hughes are still there. BTW, it ends careers more than you think, I can't imagine how many careers were ended early back int he day when they didn't know how to diagnose a concussion! https://www.si.com/nhl/photos/2013/04/17nhl-careers-ended-by-concussions#8

I am D first, and my choice is Bouchard first, but not opposed to or would be angry if they took Walhstrom and manufactured a hockey trade for a D man.

drafting damaged goods would be a huge risk. Whoever drafts him, I hope it works out for the good. SO many times players with concussion have been cleared to play by doctors only to take another hit and never play again. But there are a few examples of players who have been able to continue, Crosby being one of them. I maintain its a big risk, but for both parties I hope the results are the latter and not the former.

Interesting what he said about best player available. Even though he said he has a bunch of wingers already and they will focus on rebuilding the D, he says that if the best player available is a Winger, you draft the winger and move out a player to acquire what you need (paraphrasing.) I know you mentioned this too CRL... I wonder if Wahlstrom or a better winger is there #6, would or could that spell the eminent trade of AA in a package for a D? Hmmmm.....

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My bad...

A lot of mocks I am seeing has Dahlin #1, then 4 straight forwards. If that happens, if we are going D, that'll leave the 4 other top D available to Holland. Boqvist Bouchard Dobson Hughes ...like we've joked about before, even Holland can't screw this up, or could he?

Here is what I mean, when you have 2-4 players you're looking at when its your turn, you have to consider these types of things in order to make your choice. Boqvist and Bouchard (outside of height) may be virtual clones of each other when it comes to NHL potential, but if one is damaged goods (potentially career ending damaged goods) you have to go with the healthier one. http://www.eliteprospects.com/article.php?id=286

With the concussions that will be a heck of a gamble. Of course they aren't the smartest management team. I could see them taking him though thinking it'll please Karlsson and maybe entice him to stay. I think they need more than just Boqvist to keep Karlsson to stay. Maybe they'll land JT? I don't doubt it, but it sure would be a risk. Hopefully Holland isn't the one to take it.

Bingo!

Please, no more concussion's. It's unfortunate, but hopefully this keeps Holland from taking him. It's things like this that he has to look at that remove names off his list. Maybe someone takes a gamble on him, hopefully not us. Now, if this impacts his draft position and he falls, let's say in to the 2nd round, as long as we got some good names with late 1st and first 2nd, maybe we take him then. I'd prefer 3rd round, but hell no he drops to a 3rd. He may still get taken top 10. But this may also make another one unavailable at 6. Maybe a team that was eyeing him, passes and takes one of Bouchard or Dobson instead. Could get interesting...

Interchangeable meaning, teams could take either one at their pick in the draft. HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WEIGHT AND HEIGHT. Do not try to turn this thread into anything it isn't.

That looks like a very probable draft. It would be great to see it happen. Although, IMO, Bouchard and Dobson are interchangeable, plus I think Arizona would take Boqvist before Hughes. I am sure than they are also interchangeable, but they'd probably like to have a player there that could maybe entice OEL to never leave. Not saying Hughes wouldn't be great there either, but I am sure OEL is pretty familiar and probably a fan of Boqvist being countrymen. Either way, we're getting a player that will seriously challenge for a spot on the opening day roster!

I'd say overwhelmingly the fans prefer him according to that vote! He's Holland's #2 rated D-man behind Dahlin? Then unless he gets picked 5th, it would probably be a no-brainer that they take him. But our luck Arizona takes him What are Arizona's needs I wonder? If they need O then we're set. They'd probably snag Wahlstrom (poor guy) and we can have Bouchard. I'd go D with the first 3 picks, then go with O the next 3. The a G with one of our remaining 3rds. Then after the 3rd round, we can start the "find a diamond" game. We'll have 4 picks in the last 4 rounds (no 5th) so we may be able to get a lucky one there! (Liam Kirk Please!)

A good handful of kids on team USA!

Dobson would be a GREAT choice!

I tend to agree, but of course the usual trolling suspects are going to say it's because he is Swedish. Honestly, I don't think he makes it to 6. He is the 2nd rank D behind Dahlin, so he'll probably go. Here is my prediction for 1-5: Dahlin Svech Zadina Boqvist Tkachuk