LeftWinger

If I'm any version of him, it's this one!

Not to mention the two high 2nds. Its going to be a good 4 picks!

Mikko Koivu, Douglas Murray, Aaron Eckhart.....Ron Jeremy. My Wife? Steve Yzerman.

Didn't need the point, but man it's so glaring how s***ty Howard is...

While looking around for other "Great" players who may have received such respect, I ran across a "highlight" reel of Mark Messier....sheesh, never realized what a ******* dirty goon that guy was! Plus all his "highlight" goals, he wouldn't score 10 on today's goaltenders with those weak ass shots. OVERRATED! WAY Overrated! "The Captain" my ass! anyhow, couldn't find many videos of appreciation like the Sedins got, 1st class!

Gretzky yes, Mario was a playoff elimination so the opposition team was out there anyhow.

I honestly don't recall teams or refs doing that for any other player...maybe Gretzky? I think its time to scour Youtube!

AFTER next season you're right, but next season his cap hit is $5.2M. Thats $5.2M we could use if our 3 RFA's cost us $15M. But ok...

But we are going to suck, especially with Howard in net. Halak is no worse and would cost a lot less. We could use Jimmy's cap, especially if we land JT. Our RFA's are going to cost us more than most of us think. So ya, the more cap room the better.

Ok, re-stated: "If we're going to SUCK, I'd rather not SUCK while paying a goalie $5.2M to SUCK, we can SUCK just as good (or bad) with cheaper goalies."

I said we can go with Halak and Coreau and tank as well, and put out less money. I said IF we are able to draft Dahlin and get JT then we go with who we can and actively start looking to upgrade. Go with who we can until we find one. I said IF we are able to get Dahlin and JT, then I would like to see us actively look for a goalie to take us into the playoffs. Because if we landed those two, I am not sure I'd want to tank it again. I like the high picks, but would much rather see us win and be back in the playoffs! I didn't say Halak was that much better, he'd just be cheaper. Again, I don't mind the tank (especially if we don't get Dahlin and or JT) BUT I rather not pay our goalie $5.2M to do so...

No, I am all for tanking and with a goalie that is not as good or equal to Howard, I just don't want to pay a goalie $5.2M to tank. We can tank better with less money....no tripping over feet here, walking tall!

In hindsight ya, but on the day of the draft Carson was supposed to be the hands down top pick. If was a bit of a shocker that they didn't draft him.

I didn't like the pick, but I sure hope to be wrong about Ras-Mas-Taz!

Ya, you're right! Arizona has us in ROW's! Bonus!

If we stay 5 or 6, I am all in for Bouchard! He fits our bill nicely, PLUS he's RH'd! https://thehockeywriters.com/nhl-draft-ranking-march-2018/ Rank +/- Player Position Current Team 1 – Rasmus Dahlin D Frölunda HC (SHL) 2 – Filip Zadina LW Halifax Mooseheads (QMJHL) 3 – Andrei Svechnikov RW Barrie Colts (OHL) 4 – Adam Boqvist D Brynäs IF J20 5 – Brady Tkachuk C/LW Boston University (NCAA) 6 +1 Evan Bouchard D London Knights (OHL) 7 -1 Quinn Hughes D University of Michigan (NCAA) 8 +3 Barrett Hayton C Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds (OHL) 9 – Noah Dobson D Acadie-Bathurst Titan (QMJHL) 10 -2 Oliver Wahlstrom C/RW U.S. National U18 Team (USDP) 11 -1 Ryan Merkley D Guelph Storm (OHL) 12 +2 Joe Veleno C Drummondville Voltigeurs (QMJHL) 13 – Bode Wilde D U.S. National U18 Team (USDP) 14 -2 Rasmus Kupari C Kärpät (Liiga) 15 +1 Joel Farabee LW U.S. National U18 Team (USDP) 16 +8 Grigori Denisenko LW Loko Yaroslavl (MHL) 17 – Serron Noel RW Oshawa Generals (OHL) 18 +5 Akil Thomas C Niagara IceDogs (OHL) 19 -1 Jared McIsaac D Halifax Mooseheads (QMJHL) 20 +1 Ty Smith D Spokane Chiefs (WHL) 21 -1 Benoit-Olivier Groulx C Halifax Mooseheads (QMJHL) 22 – Jett Woo D Moose Jaw Warriors (WHL) 23 -8 Ryan McLeod C Mississauga Steelheads (OHL) 24 -5 Jesperi Kotkaniemi C Assät (Liiga) 25 +2 Allan McShane C Oshawa Generals (OHL) 26 – Isac Lundeström C/LW Luleå HF (SHL) 27 -2 Mattias Samuelsson D U.S. National U18 Team (USDP) 28 – Aidan Dudas C Owen Sound Attack (OHL) 29 – Jacob Olofsson C Timrå IK (Allsvenskan) 30 – Calen Addison D Lethbridge Hurricanes (WHL) 31 – Jack McBain C Toronto Jr. Canadiens (OJHL) Canada’s Bludgeoning Blueliner Ranked as the third-best defenceman in this month’s ranking, Bouchard of the London Knights has continued to take substantial steps in his personal development. Throughout the 2017-18 OHL campaign, Bouchard has continued to reinforce his stellar and enviable two-way game. Seemingly unsurpassable in his defensive end and a lethal playmaker in the opposing zone, Bouchard’s all-around game has earned him a wealth of praise ahead of the draft, and deservingly so. Bouchard has been an exceptional force in London this season. (Photo by Terry Wilson/OHL Images) A native of Oakville, Ontario, Bouchard’s unique ability to read and understand plays before they develop have made him an astute defender of ample potential. Capable of dismantling plays devised by his opposition before jumping into the rush himself, Bouchard’s on-ice awareness and excellent positional play should allow for a smooth transition to the NHL-level. Perhaps the scariest fact of all is that Bouchard and his game have continued to mature consistently this season, making his absolute potential of the sky-high variety.

Well, as of today we are 5th, after tomorrow's games, we can finish 4, 5 or 6. We need to lose, Montreal needs to win for us to move up to 4. If we win and Vancouver loses, we're 6th. If we all win, we stay 5th. I think we look good at 5. I just hope we don't drop in the lottery results. 5 Looks like a VERY solid NHL player as long as Holland stays within the ranked players and doesn't pull a Joe Murphy over Jimmy Carson!

Not even mentioning the storybook ending to their career with the OT goal, look at the Coyotes and Refs after the game! Utter UTTER respect and sportsmanship! THIS, my friends, is why Hockey is THE best sport in the world! There is NO sport that even compares! Good on you Arizona!

One less spot to dump Jimmy....ugh!

No, to all your sarcastic questions. If you look at the numbers I listed, they were and are a whole different class of player than the rest of the players. Especially the ones you listed in jest.

Nah, there are a lot of players forced to retire due to concussions. You won't find Franzen on any list because he technically did not retire yet. But a Bing search will show some surprising names!

I too would select Bouchard over Hughes, but either would help our D tremendously! Here's what I do, if this scenario happens: We get #4, Philly gets #8 (which then St. Louis would have the option to take that pick back and give them their 2019 1st, which in my scenario happens) St. Louis Claims that pick back, we make a deal with St. Louis to trade them the #4 OA for the #8 AND the Winnipeg 1st they have, we draft Bouchard at 8 and then STILL have 2 more 1sts PLUS those two EARLY 2NDS! Imagine having the 8th, 23rd, 24th, 33rd, and 37th picks! St. Louis gets Tkachuk, Zandina or Boqvist and we get a haul of players with serious NHL potential! (of course it is noted that while they are out at the moment, St. Louis could still make the playoffs, screwing this scenario up! ) IMO BOTH Hughes and Bouchard will be available after 7 anyhow, there is always that team or two that selects a kid that is a surprise pick!

I admit when I'm wrong. Was never wrong about Franzen. Hossa was the clear choice and Franzen never lived up to his contract, even before he was injured all the time. But that is an OLD subject. Let's move on back to topic. My only point was don't include me in the laughs because I was never against or wrong about 40 going up, laugh at me when I am clearly wrong and you (not you personally) are clearly right. I will admit it and laugh along with you...just like with Mrazek. (I'm still crossing my fingers on DD though!) Again, as my opinion has been and still remains, ALL FOUR should be up in the rafters, but its not up to us as fans, and that is too bad! I think that for his contributions to the Dynasty and the continued success of this team #96 should get serious consideration. I'd even consider #33 and #18, but now I am pushing it. But like I said, the #'s retirement is a fan thing and an appreciation of what that player did for the franchise and the fans. I understand that Holland (or whoever decides) has a much different measuring stick and unfortunately its the fans that are losing out. I think if we retired all four of these, then also 8, 18, 33, 14, 96 (not all at once) it really wouldn't water down the high standards that the organization holds, those guys are really the main cogs that were around for our entire Dynasty and even though there were a few others, those 5 is where I'd stop it, because it would be a huge can of worms I we tried to honor all of them....but I know it won't happen, so don't think I seriously feel it will. Of course I also have a good argument for Red Kelly and Marcel Pronovost....but now we're talking strict personal opinions!

Wrong and Wrong. I argued with tons of people about Hudler becoming a star here, and Franzen had started regressing before his concussion. But none of this is my point. My point was don't include me in the "I told you so" unless I was of opposition. I never said 40 shouldn't and wouldn't go up, so there's nothing for azz to be right about when it comes to me.

Ottawa finishing lower than us is a win-win. We may still get a spot above them in the lottery, plus we have their 2nd so it'll be a better pick as well.