LeftWinger

It was a response to you saying that you should laugh when you're right. Just like I used to laugh back then when those two ideas were always brought up, before everyone realized it wasn't going to happen. Point being you can laugh at me when you're right and I'm wrong, but I never said 40 wouldn't go up, so don't include me in your laughs like I was always against it happening. More times than not, players from other countries are more loyal to their national team, I applauded Z and E for what they did. Doesn't mran it doesn't happen with a ton of other players. So its not fake news.

I was far from The first person to say that! Plus, if you go over this thread, I said, multiple times ALL need to be retired. Never once said Z should not have his jersey retired! Save your laughter for when Hudler leads our team or when playoff Franzen shows back up! Oh wait, they never happened! When you're right about something that everyone else was wrong about, then you can laugh.

Meh, I'm done channeling the old LeftWinger. I hope I could create some laughs! Honestly, you know I've never been a Howard fan and am glad he is helping us tank. I don't care who's in net now, just don't win anymore or get loser points! I hope he's not back next year, especially if we get Dahlin and hit the lottery again with JT. If those two happen we need to be actively looking for some sort of upgrade. A goalie that can take us on a playoff run. Jimmy can't, that's been proven. If you can't trade him in the summer, start the season and be looking to acquire one. Who? Dunno...but if Jimmy does stay to finish his contract, he cannot be brought back to be our starter, if he re-signs it's to be a backup and at a backup salary. $1M.

Lol! Ottawa, a team worse than ours and we're supposed to be impressed by Jimmy getting a shutout? Bawahaha!

I just don't believe he is Horrible, he is actually horrible. never (see what I did there) been good, ever. Worst rebound control in the whole hockey world.

Any team not named Penguins or Wild.

I only mentioned it once in the form of a question, don't really need to "calm down" about it. It's not like I was ranting or anything near that fact.

That'll work!

ran the lottery mock draft simulator on capfriendly.com and it freaking took me 37 tries to get Detroit #1. Meanwhile there were multiple wins by Chicago, Florida, Philly, Rangers, Sens, and Islanders. ugh! Anyhow, not including our first rounder since we have no clue as to where we'll pick, I did a mock as the Red Wings and the later picks (1st and 2 2nds) I wound up #27 - Evan Bouchard, #33 - K'Andre Miller and #37 - Riley Sutter. I seen a mock on one of those sites (I forgot which one, sorry, there are SO many) that had us staying at 6th. Our picks in the first two rounds were: 1st: Quin Hughes Dominik Bokk 2nd K'Andre Miller Jet Woo

Ok, CBA Guru's, what would be the penalty and Cap hit and for how long for the Wings if Z retired after this season? If the numbers are higher, would it be more of a savings to just buy him out instead of him retiring? Here is the buyout schedule, cap friendly doesn't have a way to calculate if a player like Z would retire, probably because there aren't very many of those cap circumvention contracts left out there... Here is one if he played one more year then "retired" like is being rumored:

because playoffs.

A sign and trade of Hasek would've been great! He went back to Ottawa the next season (after lockout) right? Could've just traded him to Ottawa after signing him for at least some draft picks. Imagine the loyalty that would've shown Cujo? Speaking of Cujo, NO WAY was anything his fault the two years he was here. Of his career he had his nest GAA and SAV% while in Detroit! He had 50 wins in 92 games, if Holland would've sign and traded Hasek, could you imagine the stats Cujo may have had actually being happy here for his second year? It's all speculation, but he did not cause our playoff exits, lack of scoring on hot goalies did. Giguere and Kiprusoff were the cause of our demise.

too literal kip...

didn't say I'd rather have Mrazek. Holland traded the goalie that got the best return. IT's just Howard is showing that he is crappier than most thought. To be fair, I have NEVER been on the Howard bandwagon. I would've loved to see both dealt at the TDL and let Coreau tank us into a guaranteed top 5. I am glad we lost, I am not flaming Howard for the loss, it's just that he is so horrible it's almost like he is doing things on purpose! He makes WAY too much money, NEVER earned that contract and has NEVER lived up to it. He will be of no value come TDL, best to dump him after his NTC expires for a couple of conditional draft picks. Sure I want them to have another lottery pick next year, but not at the expense of $5.2M, we can sign a UFA goalie for $2M or less and re-sign Coreau for pennies and not be wasting my money on Howard. In the end, its the fans that pay the players salary and if I am gonna tank, I do not want to pay Howad $5.2M to do so. Right now I'd rather have Halak and Coreau be our goalies for next year until this organization finds a top tier goalie to sign or draft. Howard is just so horrible it makes tanking hurt. It'll be nice when there is no NTC blocking his trade this summer.

Howard's s***ty puck control caused 4th goal and I think my dog could've stopped the OT goal...but for sure didn't need any points, but this guy is reallyg bad. He'll probably be back next season, but he shouldn't. Don't know if I can watch another season of him. He's NEVER earned the money he was paid. Tank is fine next year, but do it without having a goalie sucking up your money. Ugh....he's horrible.

No GDT, but it looks like they don't want Dahlin.....

Forsberg was so dominate, I can't even fathom that he only played 708 games. I didn't like him either (when he was an Av) but I was one of the ones hoping that when he came back, he had chosen us instead of Philly. His loyalty to the Avs prevented him from putting on the Winged Wheel though. Poor guy, he may have won one more Cup before retiring for good.

Ya, he does have the lowest Points Per Game on that list...what was I thinking? Lidstrom was horrible!

It's supposed to be deep as well. highlighted by the player that Bob McKenze says, if he were in the 2018 draft, he would be the ONLY player to knock Dahlin out of the #1 spot. Jack Hughes. IF for some reason we don't get Dahlin this season, I would love to see a Tank for Hughes! Hell, even if we got Dahlin, I'd still love to try to tank for Hughes.

He most definitely has them beat by P/GP. But if we're going by that Forsberg is the best with OVER a point per game. Also, its very nice to see the ONLY D on that list is our own beloved! Hey, if Z retires after this or next season, and doesn't honor his contract (ala Datsyuk) will it tarnish his legacy here (ala Datsyuk and for some stupid reason Fedorov) and jeopardize his #40 going up into the rafters?

He may not even top 1000 pts. Especially if the rumors are true that he's talking about not playing the last 2 years of his contract. He has 50 points this year, but if he gets in a reduced role next season (especially if we sign JT) he may find it hard to get the points he needs to top 1000, unless he moves to the wing a remain in the top 6. He probably will get there, because he defies all critics annually, but not quite sure he'd top Daniel, especially if he cuts 2 or even 1 year off his contract by retiring early.

I don't care is DD had 30 points or 13, just as long as his +/- was +40! We need him to be that defensive type defenseman that we desperately need. But at 27 years old, I don't see him getting any better on either side of the puck. He is what he is and Holland over paid him. Honestly he should be making less that Daley.

Which is the same reason Alan Trammel should have never been Tigers manager when he was. I'll give Holland his shot this summer and next if they tank it again, but he better not do no "experimental" picks in the first 3 rounds. Draft what we need and draft the best player at that position of need. Put a 12M percent effort on signing JT, if he shows interest, stop at nothing to do so. If we legit lose out again (like Suter) then so bet it. But the 7 picks in the three rounds need to be rock solid and challenge the vets for spots all within 2-4 years. 1st rounder's need to be here within 2 years. But he needs to get rid of the coaching staff. Don't wait one more year to honor a contract...

they haven't clinched yet, need 2 more points or a Florida loss.

I'd take Calderone to add to the Michigan Mafia... Not bad stats though! He could be worth a look! Pretty sure Holland has seen him play being from the area and playing at Michigan and he'd probably choose us over most teams. Wouldn't mind giving him a contract to help GR in the playoffs and a shot at training camp next season. Free player not having to burn a draft pick! We need a couple of RH'd RW's in the system. ...plus he's played with a lot of current NHL players, including Larkin. Late bloomer...