LeftWinger

Am I alone in thinking that Ken Holland is getting passed over or hung up on? Plus all these lottery teams are getting a s*** ton of draft picks! MTL now has 4 2nd round picks! There goes all our good choices!

Agreed! I get on the road for home around 215, get home around 530. s*** will go down between then and I wont be able to get on here until its all over!!!

Ya, I'd hate it, but if he brings us some future...ugh...ok.

I hope all of Green, Tatar, Nyquist, Glenny and maybe Helm are scratches tonight for "precautionary" reasons!

Well, Klefbom and RNH (IR right now) what would be the return? Add Domi and OEL, again return? I am not sure this is Holland's direction this season, he says he wants to shed cap, but if he could get those four in a couple of package deals, for a good sensible hockey deal, what would that do to our rebuild? Would it cost us part of our Kid Core? Or would it maybe take some picks (that we may acquire tomorrow and or players like Nyquist/Tatar/DD/Howard/Prospects) I'd really like to stay away from any talks of Larkin, Mantha and AA or our 1st this and next year. If those are deal breakers, then I guess I am out. Do you really think so? Prices do seem to be going up, but wow! If we traded all of Green, Tatar and Nyquist for 1st round picks? Holy Crap! They could also bring players back too. If Nyquist is worth a 1st, would he be worth Max Domi? Would Tatar bring us Klefbom? If we traded Green for a 1st, could we flip that 1st along with Nyquist and a defensive prospect for Domi and OEL? How about flipping Green's 1st and a 2nd along with Tatar and a prospect to Edmonton for RNH and Klefbom? Worth it for them? Too much payment for us?

I hope to see 2 firsts in our list soon!

Sorry, deleting my attachments, I have run out of room!

Well, since it seems this team has just a bit too much pride to tank for #1, we better start looking between the #7-#14 range and see what is possibly good for the taking. Here is a Feb.2018 update of the top 15: 1. Rasmus Dahlin, D, six-foot-two, 181 pounds (Frolunda, SHL): Kinda like Muhammad Ali in the day, the undisputed champ. 2. Filip Zadina, RW, six-foot, 196 pounds (Halifax Mooseheads, QMJHL): Started with little room to move, but the snipe show has transcended league play, international play and best-on-best at the Top Prospects game. 3. Andrei Svechnikov, RW, six-foot-two, 186 pounds (Barrie Colts, OHL): Big, strong and powerful — skating is smooth as silk. Game is less dynamic and more pro. 4. Brady Tkachuk, LW, six-foot-three, 196 pounds (Boston University, NCAA): World junior performance carries a lot of weight as do the bloodlines. 5. Adam Boqvist, D, five-foot-11, 168 pounds (Brynas Jr.): Game-changing offensive abilities where the feet and hands work well in concert. 6. Oliver Wahlstrom, RW, six-foot-one, 205 pounds (USNTDP): His shot would play in the NHL today. He has improved his all-around game and ability to utilize teammates. 7. Noah Dobson, D, six-foot-three, 180 pounds (Acadie-Bathurst Titan, QMJHL): His rise from the start of the season to now is reminiscent of Travis Sanheim from the 2014 draft. 8. Evan Bouchard, D, six-foot-two, 193 pounds (London Knights, OHL): Three years ago a few wisemen (Dale and Mark Hunter) claimed Bouchard as one of the smartest young players they had seen in some time. Go figure. 9. Quinn Hughes, D, five-foot-10, 170 pounds (U of Michigan, NCAA): He’s been bypassed by both Dobson and Bouchard, but still remains inside the top 10. 10. Barrett Hayton, C, six-foot-one, 191 pounds (Sault Ste. Marie Greyhounds, OHL): As mature a young man as you’ll find, he’s got game that when matched with character makes him an easy pick. 11. Rasmus Kupari, C, six-foot-one, 183 pounds (Karpat, Finnish Liiga): Was incredibly close to going to Sault Ste. Marie after the world juniors and now it looks like important peer viewings will not be garnered in the upcoming Five Nations tournament. 12. Joel Farabee, LW, six-foot, 164 pounds (USNTDP): Highly skilled forward who presents the dual threat as his hockey IQ makes him equally as dangerous a playmaker as he is a shooter. 13. Isac Lundestrom, C, six-foot, 185 pounds (Lulea, SHL): Excellent speed and versatility with attention to detail in his game make him a solid pick. 14. Joe Veleno, C, six-foot-one, 195 pounds (Drummondville, QMJHL): The weight of the draft and taking on more than he could chew in Saint John stymied the production. The real Joe Veleno is emerging daily in Drummondville. 15. Mattias Samuelsson, D, six-foot-four, 217 pounds (USNTDP): Think Cal Foote from the 2017 draft. Not flashy — just gets the job done. As it sits, if we're drafting around 9 or 10, and we're still thinking D, I might be taking a gamble on Samuelsson. He has skyrocketed from a 2nd round pick to #15? Heck, he may even be gone by time we pick when its all said and done. Here is a guy a really hoped we could snag with our early 2nd round pick from OTT via NYR. But he now ranks at #20. Maybe if we're thinking forward, and this kid continues to rise a bit, I'd take a shot at him Or if we can wrangle a 1st out of playoff team at this TDL. 20. Serron Noel, RW, six-foot-five, 200 pounds (Oshawa Generals, OHL): At the start of the year he looked more like a project, but the player he can become is starting to come into focus.

It is great news! There are alot of teams that are looking for more scoring depth. I can see him going to ANY of the playoff teams, PLUS the bubble ones! Since we don't NEED to trade him, his return should be pretty good. Since it'll be a playoff team that wants him, the price should be a 2nd AND a prospect. If I am talking someone like Vegas, who has tons of draft picks, if they'd send us an NHL ready/on the cusp Prospect, I'd take one of their 2019 2nds. They have a s*** ton of picks! But in reality, if they are sending me an NHL ready prospect, or maybe a 1st or 2nd round prospect from last draft, I'd do it straight up. Tatar for High Prospect. And that would be acceptable from any team that wants to add scoring!

My God! This would be awesome! Not too keen on DD going away though...but oh well! ...and this would too!

Hype for a great game but NO POINTS!

Not that 7th rounders are that valuable, but I am starting realize and believe that we won't be losing our 7th round pick to CGY this year. I don't see McCollum coming to the NHL anytime soon.

Which is very strange to say about the Oilers management!

Its because I am getting anxious and that anxiety is making me think we aren't going to get squat for him! All these "new" players that are becoming available just may take all the air out of my sails along with all the good deals away from Holland! Plus trying to convince myself that we'll get a great return for him! we're due! Although the further Ottawa falls and sells the farm, that 2nd via the Rangers is looking like a low 1st! How's this for an offer for Tampa: Mike Green, Ottawa's 2nd for a 1st and Cal Foote! COME ON MONDAY!

Surely Green will fetch more than this?

Just some tidbits to help speculation!

it has to be just precautionary for the deadline. He probably tweaked something and they aren't taking ANY chances on losing that 4th and 5th round pick in 2099!

Here is a snipit from Eklunds page...ya, ya its Eklund, but we have to have some rumors to talk about!

I hope Holland has some crazy s*** up his sleeve too, this trade was whacky! Come On Kenny, kick those tires all the way back to Akron!

Absolutely not, but it would be nice to trade about 4 more players for more picks/prospects, but if we don't, meh...I'm sure we'll hear all the one liners why we didn't even trade 2 more.

We are all getting hopeful for Monday, but I have a feeling this will be Holland and his staff come 3PM

Howard is not better than Mrazek. They both have their inconsistencies. Actually Howard is consistent, consistent at sucking after the All-Star break. Its just he is grossly overpaid and has another year on his contract so it would've been harder to trade. Plus Petr pissed in Holland's Wal-Mart brand Oatsie Rings so he was getting the ax before Jimmy anyhow. I still hope that Howard is gone before next year as well! Not unless the plan is, Petr steps it up, takes Philly to the ECF, we get the 2nd and the 2019 pick, Hextall doesn't qualify him, we dump Jimmy for a couple of pieces of burnt bacon, then sign Mrazek to a nice deal.....no?

I'm thinking it were that obvious that he was doing so, it would be illegal per CBA and NHL Rules. That is almost like circumventing the Cap in order to screw other teams. First of all, I am not sure if there is even a "cutting" process with the CB Rules and contracts. I guess he could waive him, but that would still be a glaring circumvention of the trade agreement and probably would be a hefty fine involved, maybe even trading privileges revoke for a period of time. Plus not only would Hextall screw his relationship with Holland, there are 29 other GM's that would take notice of that act and also refrain from dealing with him. If there are actual "fans" saying they actually think he would do that, then they don't know crap about the business aspect of sports and probably barely anything about the sport itself. These are the fans that get up and scream at the TV when the plays goes offside asking WTF did they blow the whistle for!?!?! ...will we draft a LH'd or RH'd Pitcher or go with a Short Stop?