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Well Kronner is back in town ready to go.

We were all duped by the Blash hype. Not sure what happened. Number who?

Suspicious...very. Hmmmmm....

What sucks about those 2 in particular is we didn't need both. I understand going with Nielsen because he was supposed to be your 2nd line center, but we had zero need for both of them. Sheahan wouldve made a fine 3rd line center and probably would've had a better season stat-wise as well. The Helm signing was not needed. You guys tease on me about bitching about loyalty and returning to form, but in helm's case that's exactly what it was, loyalty and hoping he returned to his former self when he was a hit commodity in the nhl. $3.85M that could be very useful right now. Or if you Look at Nielsen, his money would also be very useful right now. Couldve just made Larkin the 2nd line center and rolled the dice.

If we're still s*** by January, begin the sale. E, Goalie, Helm, Green, Abby, Glen, Sheahan, one of nyquist/Tatar if we must. Give us our best shot at the generational player, then start fresh with a new GM, all his toadies and an entire coaching staff.

E, Helm, one of the goalies.

But then I see stuff like this and hope and pray we get this team going now instead of later! Sign AA, deal with the cap later....come on Holland!

Sounds like i have a few years to not watch this team and hopefully rediscover my passion for it. I've never felt so jaded about this team in my life and that includes the late 80's early 90's. Then, at least you felt they were building something. Now there's too much hanging on to the past and not enough creativity to better our future. Right now I don't feel any positivity towards the direction Holland has taken and is taking this team. I feel no excitement. When it seems that we are losing one of our only bright spots on the team because of total mismanagment and way overpaid players like Helm, it makes you not even care anymore.

Well at the very least, will be rid of a TON of cap in two years...I know others will be making more, but we'll also be rid of the old guard. Z, Kronn, E (buyout) Howard...it will be a wonderful day. although, I do wish Z would honor and complete his contract. The others can go.... But anyhow, again, AA must not be allowed to go. If he goes, Holland MUST be fired! Hey, Kenny, 2008 called, Helm, Kronwall, E, Abby, Howard are not returning to this form of themselves. Move on. Holland has overpaid too many mediocre players! When Helm said he had other offers, goodbye! This pisses me off. I am ashamed of what he turned this team into....the highest paid team in the league and will not make the playoffs again. He screws up the first top 10 pick in 25 years This reeks of taking Primeau over Jagr. Because we need a sizeable center, not a high scoring elite WInger. It stunk then and it stinks now. We need to get a petition to Chris Ilitch...fire him or lose your fanbase.

Just retire now. Sign AA, no problem. IMO if Z retires now, so should Kronner and E. That would open up a ton of cap. Kronner and E are not on one of those weird cap circumvention contracts, $9M saved there.

You got to be a dick to beat a bigger dick. Holland must go. Does anyone still wonder why Babcock left?

Don't plan on watching AA. My hype level is -750. If AA walks, I'm not watching until Holland and his garbage are gone. We need an entire upper management and coaching staff.Clean sweep. Now!

Just keep believing Holland knows what he's doing. Here's yet another example of him handing out too much money and possibly losing part of the future. Nyquist, too much, Tatar, too much, Helm, too much, the list goes on. One of the goalies should've been traded when they had value. No way E should even be sniffing the LCA. Time has come for Holland to be fired. Enough is enough. He screwed the draft pick, he handed out too much money to Tatar, he refused to buy anyone out, he refused to trade anyone. He just keeps believing that He has hand over the players, but it's the players who have hand. Holland is a hunk of junk. Holland: we're the Red Wings, nobody would dare leave us! I'll just make sure all my vets are happy and players will come flocking in! Who wouldn't take a discount to play with Z and E and Kronwall and Nyquist and Helm and Howard. When their 2008 selfs show up, everyone will see!

I say retire now. Then we can truly tank for Svech II.

http://kuklaskorner.com/tmr/comments/the-overnight-report-two-more-years-of-zetterberg-an-obituary-a-stat-of-not?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Of course Z will bail when his drops....

I agree, there is no way any if those 3 should be getting more ice Time or more pp time tha Mantha or AA.

Helm for a pick would be wondrous!

Lol! From "go hard" and "do all they can" to "will not go after" In other words, Will Butcher told Ken Holland to go f*** himself...

I'm glad you said IS because he didn't get either.

None of us like his bias against the Wings, but we NEVER want to see This! Beat this Eddie, get well! https://twitter.com/NHLBlackhawks/status/895029107184062465

I can do without it. That was not even anywhere near a Kronwalling. But I am all for a 100% healthy Kronner playing. Not a 70% one. LTIR, retire, whatever, if you're not 100% you're taking away better players ice. And some folks are worried about Butcher taking away from others. It's K and E that are the ice stealers. They need to go if not going to be able to play 100%.

I'm tired of not taking risks. We didn't draft Tippett because Holland wanted to play it safe a draft a center, not even the best one available either. We don't take risks of firesaling our aging players because Holland thinks they'll miraculously return to 2008 form. Take a risk and put your deserving kids in the top 6 and demote players that haven't earned a top 6 spot. Take the risk and sign butcher, if he's better than what we have, great. If he never makes it out of the A, no loss.

Well obviously the organization thinks very highly of him to "do everything they can" to sign him. Maybe they feel he is higher on the scale than Russo. Besides, I don't recall 30 teams all wanting to sign Russo. But 31 say they want Butcher, even Colorado, but he isn't going there obviously.

All this says Will Butcher is ahead of all of our depth D in GR already: 2015-16 Univ. of Denver NCAA 39 9 23 32 19 19 | 2016-17 Univ. of Denver NCAA 43 7 30 37 18 27 2016-2017 NCAA (Championship) All-Tournament Team NCAA (Championship) Winner NCAA (NCHC) Best Offensive Defenseman NCAA (NCHC) First All-Star Team NCAA (NCHC) Player of the Year NCAA (NCHC) Reg. Season Champion (Penrose Cup) NCAA (West) First All-American Team NCAA Lowes Senior Class All-Americans 2nd Team NCAA Top Collegiate Player (Hobey Baker Award) NCAA Top Collegiate Player (Hobey Baker Award) Finalist

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