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I agree, there is no way any if those 3 should be getting more ice Time or more pp time tha Mantha or AA.

Helm for a pick would be wondrous!

Lol! From "go hard" and "do all they can" to "will not go after" In other words, Will Butcher told Ken Holland to go f*** himself...

I'm glad you said IS because he didn't get either.

None of us like his bias against the Wings, but we NEVER want to see This! Beat this Eddie, get well! https://twitter.com/NHLBlackhawks/status/895029107184062465

I can do without it. That was not even anywhere near a Kronwalling. But I am all for a 100% healthy Kronner playing. Not a 70% one. LTIR, retire, whatever, if you're not 100% you're taking away better players ice. And some folks are worried about Butcher taking away from others. It's K and E that are the ice stealers. They need to go if not going to be able to play 100%.

I'm tired of not taking risks. We didn't draft Tippett because Holland wanted to play it safe a draft a center, not even the best one available either. We don't take risks of firesaling our aging players because Holland thinks they'll miraculously return to 2008 form. Take a risk and put your deserving kids in the top 6 and demote players that haven't earned a top 6 spot. Take the risk and sign butcher, if he's better than what we have, great. If he never makes it out of the A, no loss.

Well obviously the organization thinks very highly of him to "do everything they can" to sign him. Maybe they feel he is higher on the scale than Russo. Besides, I don't recall 30 teams all wanting to sign Russo. But 31 say they want Butcher, even Colorado, but he isn't going there obviously.

All this says Will Butcher is ahead of all of our depth D in GR already: 2015-16 Univ. of Denver NCAA 39 9 23 32 19 19 | 2016-17 Univ. of Denver NCAA 43 7 30 37 18 27 2016-2017 NCAA (Championship) All-Tournament Team NCAA (Championship) Winner NCAA (NCHC) Best Offensive Defenseman NCAA (NCHC) First All-Star Team NCAA (NCHC) Player of the Year NCAA (NCHC) Reg. Season Champion (Penrose Cup) NCAA (West) First All-American Team NCAA Lowes Senior Class All-Americans 2nd Team NCAA Top Collegiate Player (Hobey Baker Award) NCAA Top Collegiate Player (Hobey Baker Award) Finalist

https://www.prohockeyrumors.com/winnipeg-jets

For sure, I'd love nothing more than a 100% healthy Kronwall. He is great when he is healthy, but we've been hoping for that for the better part of 3 seasons now, I just don't believe its going to happen. If he limps through this season again, he needs to retire or be bought out, we need that spot and cap for a healthy player who will help us get better. The time for loyalty to old Detroit vets is over.

Hoperfully AA isn't hardballing Holland either. Maybe he doesn't want to play here with Blashill as coach? Not sure what goes on behind the scenes. But honestly, if push comes to shove, offer him the 1 year $1.4M that we have left over and then next season, with a new GM and coaching Staff, he can get a nice deal that he deserves. OR just dump Sheahan for a pick, its that simple. If we have $1.4 to the cap, then that's $3.4M roughly, enough to sign AA for $2.25M bridge and a million for the 13th forward. regarding Butcher, sign him, he says he isn't against playing in the A for a season if it means having a team get going in the right direction. Next season he'll make the club with plenty of capo open after Green is dealt and maybe even Mrazek not re-signed if he falls flat again. I don't think Larkin and Mantha should cost us more than $5M combined (unless the somehow score 60-90 points each.) Plus, he'd be worth waiving Sproul or trading XO. But honestly, if not this year, then for sure next, Kronwall and Ericcson need to be dealt with. K needs to retire and E needs to be dealt for futures or bought out. Neither are on any of those "cap" circumventing contracts (like Franzen and Z) so there shouldn't be any penalty assessed if they retire of get bought out. Trevor Daley and Nick Jensen are going to be (I predict) our best two defensemen this year, and they make less than Green, DD, K and E. Lets us not forget us acquire that #1 D guy. I read an article somewhere that Winnipeg and Trouba are still at odds and they will have trouble re-signing him after the season, so that's going to be talked about a ton here as well. I love AA, but if he really isn't too keen on playing under Blash, maybe a deal can be struck involving Trouba and AA in a package. But I'd rather just get rid of Blashill before AA.

Here you have it. They wont sign AA unless Holland moves salary. http://kuklaskorner.com/tmr/comments/the-overnight-report-on-athanasious-contract-cholowskis-options-and-multime?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

No Kenny, no.

Wings going to go hard after Butcher at the stroke if midnight.

With our roster (AA included) here's a lineup id like to see: (channeling my inner blueadams) Tatar - Z - Mantha Nyquist - Larkin - AA Abby - Nielsen - Helm Witkowski - Glenny - Sheahan Daley - Green DD - Jensen XO - Sproul

All very valid points.

Take late round picks in return and those guys are very tradeable. But Holland over values them and still believes that the 8 year ago versions of them are bound to show up, they just will, trust him.

Nice....my kids aren't even afraid of me...

Abby played a season in Cedar Rapids. That's where he was drafted from, but I agree. Even as much as I love Michigan born and bread players, he really seems to coddle them...not as much as Swedish born players, but still...

There's about as much truth to that as there is Russian collusion...although, Fedorov is my favorite player. Hmmmm.....nah, fake news. I feel honored though that I was part of a conspiracy theory! Awesome!

That's what this organization is about though, things players "did." Holland holds on to these players because they had a good season or two asnd that player just might show up again if he keeps them and they keep playing, re. playoff Franzen, 2008 Franzen, player X coming off LTIR is our deadline acquisition . This organization has lost all touch with reality, and that is squarely on Holland's shoulders. I honesty don't know how he's had a job the last two seasons.

Opening day D: Daley - Green Dekeyser - Jensen Kronwall - Ericsson

http://kuklaskorner.com/tmr/comments/the-outlook-for-niklas-kronwall?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Hmmmm, doesn't say anything about LTIR. So E will be ready, Kronner will bready...no money for AA or a 13th forward. But hey, he likes his team.

Holland is the one with all the ridiculousness. I'm tired of him. The streak only ended last year, but we've been playoff fodder since the game 7 against Chicago. Barely making it, backing in, etc... so we've been junk for about 5 years, were in year 6 of a rebuild that Holland has really screwed up. Look at all the generous contracts he's handed to mediocre players since then because they're "homegrown." Now he has no money for his most dynamic player because of it. AA should've been offered $2M from the get go, before Tatar went to arbitration. AA will eclipse anything Tatar or Nyquist will do and here he sits unsigned while we have $10M tied up in those two. I am seriously questioning his ability to manage a team. It's pissing me off. E, helm and one of nyquist/Tatar should be gone. We have players already on the team and in the system that can more than replace them. But Holland so over values those players that he is incapable of dealing them. I don't care what market value is, we need to fire sale these players, AA, Larkin and Mantha are way more important to give money to than to keep these guys. God I hope and pray Holland is spending his last year as GM. Of course if one of his toadies are promoted, we're in deep s*** for years to come.