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Well, considering he made $2.75 it would be nearly a $2M increase. But, that contract was a hometown discount, hge signed that after Nyquist got his. Then after he signed it, Abby and Helm got way overpaid. I understand the reasoning behind what he wants, but there just isn't any cap. That's Holland's fault. He needs to trade away some cap. We needed to lose $4M at expansion PLUS trade away about $12M in mediocre cap space. One of our goalies, Nyquist, Helm and Ericsson. None of which we'd miss and are all replaceable from within. If Holland would take better care of his house, we wouldn't be in this situation, but he still thinks that these players will get better even though they get older, so he hangs on to them....for far too long.

Yes it is interesting...not sure if this is anything, but this guy's equipment just passed through my hands on its way to Grand Rapids.

I was joking because nobody but Holland was horny to draft him at #9. The joke was that only Holland would think he was as valuable as Tavaras...obviously most of you think he's more valuable....and yes, Frk has to pass through waivers no matter what. It has nothing to do with 2-way or 1-way, that's for salary. To answer your question, yes I would trade him for Tavares. Of course with the understanding he re-sign a huge deal.

Since he was so valuable and a superstar pick, I'll trade Rasmussen straight up for Tavares. I won't even ask them for their 1st round pick in 2018.

Trades are hard, mkay...

because REAL GM's are actively trying to make their teams more competitive.

Holland to trade Tatar and Mrazek? Oh, nevermind, I forgot. Trades are hard...for Holland.

This is what great GM's do.

Nope, I only have 1 account, been the same since day 1!

Wait, Holland offered him a contract, he didn't accept, then when he wants the offered contract, it's no longer on the table? No.....that never happens <cough cough> Fedorov <cough cough>

There you go. This should help structure Tatar contract.

Ya, I agree, just trade him. Even $5M for 5 years isn't going to make a difference for us, it'll just be another overpaid guy scoring 20 goals...maybe. Sign Vanek for cheaper and much less term, then use the money for Larkin and Mantha...we're going to need it!

If we had $20M in cap space, then sure, give him more than $5M, but we only have just over $6M in total cap. Now if Holland would dump about $12-$14M in salary, we can negotiate a bit more salary for him.

I do believe it's making fun of me since most of the players I don't like are from a certain country. If I can laugh at it, so can you. I don't take it personal, neither should you.

I like reading about all these 1st rounders signing ELC's. I wonder if ours will be the last one to sign....in 3 years.

Trade him to Vegas for Hague! Sorry, couldn't resist!

Goodbye Tatar. If he doesn't want 5/5 then trade him. I know ive argued hes worth $5.5M but the attitude plus he has to know theres only so much cap left. Give Vanek 4/2. I'm done with this crap.

Word going around that we're still talking to Vanek and he wants to come back...not sure how that'll work with Tatar and AA getting the rest of the cap...unless there's about $4.75M going on LTIR.

I don't care if it's 8 yrs. As long as it's $5M or less and he loses the attitude! But in this rare case, I agree with Holland. Maybe he's trying to not hand out the lo my deals anymore. May he wants to give him 5 yrs so he's not paying an old guy into his mid 30's.

Ya, you'd think he was CNN or something!

The guy is nuts. You call Detroit and tell them bulls***! Trade him right ******* now! In all seriousness, get AA signed and then deal with Tatar.

If we're using Johnson as a comp. Then Tatar should get $4.5M.

Yes, I said earlier I wonder what kind of return we could get for a package of Tatar and Mrazek. Although Holland couldn't give Mrazek away at expansion...

At this point, I'll stick with Nyquist over a bad attitude Tatar and Howard over a bad attitude Mrazek. Like I said trade them both now and give Vanek a call. I'd even give Jagr a 1 year deal instead of deal with attitude. Btw, Tatar is Slovokian.

That sand bagging son of a *****!