LeftWinger

Nothing is out of the question. Bold moves happen all the time. More than likely won't, but not that it couldn't.

Nowhere am I showing concern about not signing this Swedish guy. Glad he's not coming here. Just commenting on how we used to get everyone and that's how other fans must've felt about us back then.

...and here's the story of how Roenick became a Flyer. He and his wife were in Detroit considering the contract offer. He got a call from Rick Tochhet while in Detroit and was convinced to come to Philly. http://www.espn.com/magazine/vol5no22roenick.html So, next time you need to know something, don't hesitate to ask.

http://amarillo.com/stories/063001/spo_roenick.shtml#.WRNSwvcpDqA Roenick agreed to a 5 year contract BEFORE we traded for Hasek. The story came out June 30. We traded for Hasek while burning the midnight oil. I went to bed that night we didn't have Hasek, some up for my 5am workshift and the detnews.com had the trade on their website. It happened so late that they couldn't even print it in the paper because it had already gone to press. So ******* sick of you questioning s*** that I say and saying how wrong I am. Once again, i'm right, So from now on, until you research things that can prove I'm wrong, keep your bulls*** to yourself.

I'd be ok with it. I'd still want Tippett first, but we do need a center as well. If he took Suzuki at 9, wouldnt be angry.

I'd just be happy with the cap relief of trading Howard. But I still think Bishop is better than BOTH of our goalies. But oh well, hopefully Mrazek will get back to vezina form.

I'd rather go Suzuki if we're going Finesse.

I'm hoping he doesn't. There's just so much better available in the top 10 than a Holland-esque pick...but I wouldn't be surprised.

I honestly think JR wouldve been good here. Of course we probably don't sign Robitaille then.

Wow! So much for us...i guess Holland really loves his inconsistent and constantly hurt tandem. I'm sure LA wouldve rather had a 3rd than a 4th, but....Holland loves his draft picks and mediocre goaltending. ...and before you say he may not have gotten a call, he knew he was available and I'm sure he knew the price. Of course the expansion draft put a kink in it all. Wouldve been nice to have him...guess I'll have to burn my Bishop jersey in had made.

Datsyuk is coming out if retirement to play in Vegas...

What was Hollands good move? He offered JR the contract, JR could've easily chosen Detroit over Philly. They were the exact same offers. You probably meant thank goodness he chose Philly. Because whether or not we acquired Hasek, Holland wanted JR.

Ya, now you're just trolling.

Now we know how fans of those teams felt about us for 20 years. Holland just needs to make this teammore attractive to free agents. The new building will help, but he needs to dump these players making too much money so he can actually outbid a team now and then. He needs to dump as much salary as he can to be in on the Bishop sweeps. One big name will draw more interest. I remember a story from Roenick back when he signed with the Flyers. He was absolutely the best ufa available that year and his story was Philly and Detroit offered him the exact same contracts. He chose Philly because he felt they had more of a chance to win...then Detroit traded for Hasek. He said had they traded for Hasek before he agreed to go to Philly, he would've chosen Detroit instead. My point is all Holland has to do is acquire one big name, big game player and that will attract more. Who would a big name ufa rather play in front of, old man Howard an inconsistent unproven Mrazek or Ben Bishop?

I can't tellm if you're just trolling me or being serious. Holland is going to do what he feels is best. Most of us won't agree with him, but that won't change anything. Our "feelings" don't matter, but we all have players that we hope are to become the next drafted Red Wings. That's why I am not sure if you're just trolling or seriously want Liljegren and an asset. I really would love if my two guys were to be drafted by us. But looking at your scenario (if serious) it would be very nice if (even if Tippett were there) let's say Calgary wanted him bad, that Holland dealt the #9 for Hamilton and the #15 and then drafted Liljegren if he was there. As much as I want Tippett, I cannot argue that scenario whatsoever.

I have a super great feeling we're going to get Tippett at 9 and then trade up into the 20's a draft Hague. The only thing that stops this is if Holland brokers a deal for Trouba, Hamilton or Fowler. I could see trading an asset or 2 and the #9 to Calgary for Hamilton and their 1st, which I think is the 15th. But what assets? Whew! If we keep the #9, I'm pretty sure he'll be there...but man, all these mock draft out there, nobody knows who will go where! I am begging the Hockey Gods that he is there at 9 and Holland picks him. It says a ton that the organization has been heavily scouting Missisauga. I think Holland wants Tippett and Hague, I guess it all depends who is gone and when. I bet if Tippett is gone before 9, Holland makes a deal to move down a bit a tries to get Hague.

Well I've been checking in on the game, I love watching Crosby cry and whine.

Was going to watch the game but.....Olczyk...

You'll eat crow...and according to certain part time visitors, I'll be burning jerseys if he goes to the AHL. (At least I said it in this thread)

Hague would be an awesome pick if we could acquire an extra 1st....

...and DD was guaranteed a spot or he wouldve gone to Toronto. He played the last 11 games that year, then AHL playoffs. He's never looked back since.

That's fine. We'll see when he signs somewhere. If a team is telling him he'll get an nhl spot, that's where he'll go. That WILL be a deciding factor. Plus on your list, I don't recall 90% of those guys being coveted by multiple teams. Zucchini was, but the others mostly weren't.

I mean any of these players. Do you actually think Dekeyser wouldve signed here if he wasn't guaranteed an nhl spot? Sure he wanted to be a Wing, but if there was no room for him here, he wouldve gone elsewhere. These FA's want to be in the nhl. Granted there are exceptions like Nosek. But I don't recall him being coveted by multiple teams.This guy is and will probably choose a team that he can be in the nhl.

If history dictates anything with these players, they aren't coming to a nhl team to not be in the nhl. Maybe they spend one year in the A, but then they pull the whole "either I'm in the nhl or I'm going home. " it's happened a lot.