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You can if you dump others. Petry, Holl, Maatta, Chiarot. Any of these guys are expendable.

Plus, he says "recalls Johansson" at some point. Johansson isn't going to clear waivers if he's sent down from the start. Re-sign Ghost. How do you not? Unless the guy wants 6 or 7 million.

$1.5M next season

Well there was one thing that has been nice while The Wings weren't relevant. So, back to real conversation, with hearing that they are going to give Johansson a legit shot at Detroit, knowing Edvinsson is also going to be here, plus also knowing they'd like Ghost back, that makes a pretty jammed up defense. I'm sure Yzerman will explore upgrading the D as well. Although he didn't word for word, quote, verbatim, write in down on paper, or tell his team this at the press conference, I'm pretty positive he'll look at some options. Who goes? We know who we'd like to see go, but I wonder how Yzerman will actually thin this out. Seider, Walman, Johansson, Edvinsson, Chiarot, Petry, Maatta, Ghost, Holl, possible upgrade. Thats a whole lot of D for 7 or 8 rosters spots.

But those were his exact words. Also I wasn't pointing at you directly, I was just saying all the name calling back and forth was not necessary. Also, I always said "I think" and "I believe" or "IMO" I definitely never claimed to interpret his words as "a matter of fact." But he did say, exactly his choice will depend on where he fits on the team and who he plays with. He may have been referring to 32 teams, but I believe he was mostly talking about Detroit. You can still have Kane and get younger. You don't re-sign Sprong, Fischer, Reimer, and trade a D along with buying out Petry. If he replaces 2 of those players with Berggren and Johansson along with promoting Edvinsson full time, Detroit gets much younger. I'm not getting into arguments or name calling, that hasn't been me for a very long time. I'm just going to say, I believe and I hope he comes back. But mostly I hope that, in whatever way, the team gets upgraded.

No. I said if he got the term and Yzerman gave him a better picture of what the top 6 may look like, that I believe that he may have no issue returning. So, if Yzerman gives him a good picture of what he is trying to do to improve the team and they can agree on term that works for player and team, I honestly do believe he'll be back. Maybe Yzerman doesn't get his star players involved that way though....don't know, but it's no reason to soil 2 pages of this thread with slurs and pointless banter. Debrincat said "he picked us for a reason" Kane said some factors are "where he fits on the team and who he may play with." It's in the videos. Interpret that in your own way.

As a matter of fact, around the 2:20 mark of the exit interview, he is answering a question about moving forward and indeed he says "...how do I fit in with the team, who do I play with..." now, he may not be referring to just Drtroit and maybe looking how he fits in and who he'd play with on another team, but if you take the statement alone, he just may be talking about Detroit. If Yzerman gives him term and provides a better picture of what the top 6 is going to look like, I believe he'd have no issue returning.

Not necessarily. None of the team celebrated. A promise to improve the team in areas, some term, and he could be back. I hope he's back or we're in trouble. How do you replace a PPG guy? He can't be angry that Yzerman didn't make any moves at the TDL because he was one of the players saying how much they all love playing together and how they feel they can win with the guys they have. He did mention about who he's playing with. That's a coaching thing. I know you cannot let a player dictate the line mates, but he'll be top 6, maybe get him an upgrade at C if he's not gonna play with Larkin (I suggested Domi before) and keep them together. He seems to like Domi. If Yzerman can unload some cap ( a couple of Fabbri, Holl, Chiarot, Husso, for example) he could seriously upgrade his top 6 by reaching out to Domi and Bertuzzi. Could you imagine that top 6? Bertuzzi-Larkin-Raymond Kane-Domi-DeBrincat Those two lines would have it all. Playmaking, sniper, sandpaper. You'd have a solid bottom 6 anchored by Rasmussen, Compher, Copp (Perron if he returns) Still trade Berggren and a 1st for a serious D upgrade. Like him or not, Chychrun would be a big upgrade. Of course this all depends on clearing enough cap to sign and re-sign the players we need to sign. And maybe Ottawa retaining 50% of Chychrun. Because Domi/Bertuzzi would probably cost about $10-$11M combined, also knowing Seider/Raymond will probably cost $13-$16M combined. It could work if we dumped some of the salary mentioned above. If you could get another $12-$14M in cap avail via trades, it's doable. Fill in the final few spots with kids.

You my be right, but it sounded like if he could get term here, he'd be interested.

Makes lots of sense.

We need a MAJOR upgrade to the D, and young. Think 25-28. If we can clear enough cap, and still add Roy, cool, but we have to make our top 4 D a ***** to play against.

Unfortunately (I have been messing with Armchair GM) I cannot get Werenski salary to work, without dumping Chiarot and Holl. Unless we can include Holl in the trade, I just cannot get it to work. I even traded Fabbri and bought out Husso's contract. I re-signed Ghost and Kane in this scenario too. It's just not gonna work. But I agree, we need to go aggressive on trade talent. Like I've said before, this year's and next year's 1st are in play, along with some good young players. We should get some attention.

Trade Berggren, #15, a 2nd to Columbus for Werenski (I bet he'd waive his NMC to come here) and they can draft Adam Jiricek and have the brothers on their team. It would have to wait until the actual pick to see if Jiricek is still on the board, of course

Ok, here is the best we can do, it took me about 25 tries though. 5th is the highest we can climb, and 16th the lowest, which means we'll be drafting 16th. I just wanted to see if we'd actually move up the most possible, and we did, but unfortunately, it's not going to be this simple. The list of prospects above is still the same for McKenzie, he hasn't released the April one yet. IMO, we wait post lottery, then decide if we are going to just draft another player that we won't see for 5 years, or is it time to bundle the 1st and a player(s) to upgrade the D right now.

McKenzie has Zeev at 13 and Jircek at 15.

and so the off season begins!

Lyon would still need to clear waivers, right? And the way he played this year, along with his minimal salary, he'd surely get picked up. So, does that mean even if Philly's plan worked and they won in regulation, it wouldn't had mattered because Detroit got a point? They both would've had 90 with us having the tie breaker right? If so, then dang it! The timing couldn't have been worse for them to score that open net goal...

2 years? That'll be 4 on the books. We need to try and get Chychrun and then a package of Andersson and Markstrom. We can re-sign Reimer as a 3rd string again, he performed admirably last night, and through a lot of games.

I only mention Holl because he's taking up cap and a roster spot. If he's not going to play ever, then get something for him.

We'll be drafting 15th. Trade it. Upgrade the ******* D!

Nah, cannot support Roy

What is Keating talking about? How great this team played while down? s***, if they wouldn't had blown 14 points going 0-7, this wouldn't have been even needed tonight.

Well, see you all at the draft lottery, where the best we can do is go up 10 spots. May as well trade the 1st and Berggren for a huge D upgrade.

f*** this shootout Not even worth it

f*** Philly. They f***ed us.