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I think Sheahan and Vanek should switch lines. Nyquist, Helm, Sheahan could actually be a good trio. I think Vanek is wasted out of the top 6. But he will be on the 1st PP unit. He should be at least.

Fair enough. Future reference I use the name Erection.

I don't Google that. Matt Shepard is respected journalist, who also works for FSS & WDFN. The Malik Report is a trusted source who only quotes and reports on things that come from trusted people. It's a well written article and it was tweeted by a Red Wings news source. So if I can't come here or other threads and talk about players on this team, maybe I should talk about other teams...

I think Sheahan and Vanek should switch lines, but I'm sure Blashill will be switching things a lot. I seriously hope all three of Tatar, Nyquist and Helm exceed my expectations. If we can get Nyquist and Tatar back to 30, Helm to 20 and then mypredictions of Vanek to 30, we just might surprise folks...me included. I think our D will be the downfall of this team, but then again, you don't really know until you play the games, yes? I'm going with a surprise 4-1 win for us today. 2 PP goals by Vanek, playmaker by Neilson, Larkin and Ott with two other goals. Johnson with the Tampa goal.

Well actually this guy works for FSS. But that's ok, you can keep thinking Holland is God. Easy answer, Holland. Hard answer, because..Holland

http://kuklaskorner.com/tmr/comments/wdfns-matt-sheppard-wings-fans-should-be-angry-at-hollands-lack-of-commitme Hammer on the nail. Holland needs to go.

Exactly. Blashill has power of who plays from the pool that Holland gives him. He said that AA wasn't good enough in camp, yet he was given AA, so Blashill has him in the pressbox. Not sure what his opinion of Frk was, but at least if AA was in GR (safely) and someone had to be in the pressbox, why not make it Frk? Why waive him? Because the blundering idiot thinks that just because someone won't trade for a player that no one is interested in them. Obviously multiple teams were. They just played Holland like the buffoon his is.

Will be very interesting to watch this development. I love how it says Red Wings Blunder....because Holland is a blundering idiot. We will miss both Pulk and Frk. Two RH'd shots that we don't have anymore and need on the team. But hey, maybe Nyquist will score 15 goals this year and Blashill will continue to play Abby in a role he isn't capable of playing. I like Abby, but he's not top line material. I don't recall ever seeing Pulk last season even given the chance on the top line with Larkin and Zetterberg or Datsyuk. For those of you that still wonder why no TOP talent UFA's will even consider Detroit....Ken Holland is the answer. When Jon Drouin told Yzerman to play him or trade him, guess what Yzerman said, I make the rules around here and now look at Drouin. When Helm told Holland he has offers to play elsewhere, Holland got on his knees, sucked him off, gave him too much AND a NTC, PLUS guaranteed 3rd line or higher minutes. Blashill is now seeing why Babcock left. Fixed.

Yes, its his decision to play them or not, but its Holland who waives them or sends them down to GR. The point I was making was, if AA wasn't going to play right away, he could've been sent to GR with Mantha at no risk and we could've kept Frk in the pressbox and he would've still been in the organization. If, after getting into 10 or so games, he wasn't panning out or if AA came up for an injured player and took over the spot, then waive Frk. But Blashill can only play who Holland gives him. He had said that BOTH AA and Mantha have not been good enough in camp, yet Holland dumped Frk and Pulk and kept AA. I love AA, but I love him playing, not the 13th FWD, and NOT on the 4th line. AA should be our 3rd line center, hands down, but that was given to a useless guy.

Did not say I wouldn't be posting. I said with the piss poor job Holland did, and with the improvements of Boston, healthy Price and all of Tampa's players coming back, PLUS Florida is better than us, the streak will be over. Where does that say I won't watch or be posting? I have said I am teetering on the edge of boycotting if Holland loses Sproul due to Kronwall coming back, but I was informed that they won't have to waive him because they all fit under the cap. No doubt though, if this team does NOT make the playoffs, useless contracts must go, Howard, Ericsson, Nyquist AND Helm for example. My point to you was I watched and bled with them during the Dead Wings era and as they grew the core that you all are spoiled by. I can handle watching it again, but it seems that Holland doesn't want to grow by the draft like he says every year, yet he doesn't want to trade the 1st rounder for a better player. He just talks sideways out his ass. Build via the draft, but re-sign garbage players, lose talented young kids for nothing. Every year its the same with him. Every year he says build through the draft, kids will be our future, yet every year he re-signs useless players like Helm, Miller, and before like Samuelsson, Cleary, KFQ. Just wait for when Mantha is out of waiver options and there's no room for him on the roster...do you think he'll waive one of the players he is loyal to? No, he'll waive Mantha and hope he sneaks by everyone, like he hoped with Frk and Pulk. BTW, of all the teams and all the players waived the last couple of weeks, how many players were claimed? TWO! Both ours! Other GM's know Holland is going to dump his kids for his useless players, like Helm and Ericsson. They just wait salivating and hope they can get their hands on them for free. And look what happened. Nobody wanted to give Holland a 7th round pick or even future considerations for either Frk or Pulk, but as soon as they were waived, multiple claims on Frk and even Pulk got snatched up. Holland gets fleeced all the time. He overpays for junk (Quincey) but won't give a 1st up in a package for Trouba or Fowler? Why, so that 1st round pick can get waived in three years after signing a contract so we can be loyal to WAY below average players? That's why I and many are upset and have almost had it with this guy!

Uh....you're talking to a life long Wings fan. I was there and watched through the Dead Wing era. I can take it. Won't be happy, and will love coming here and conversing with everyone. But nice way to be constructive to the convo manxy.

Seems to me, maybe we could've just sent AA down with Mantha and kept Frk to be the healthy scratch....no? But regarding AA as a scratch...in other news...nevermind, Holland must go. Here's what we know...Trade Datsyuk in order your clear cap to attempt to sign Stamkos. As a result miss out on Chycrun. Doesn't even get to talk to Stamkos. Re-sign Helm to a preposterously overpaid and too long contract. Sign Nielsen and Vanek to try to make up for getting slighted by Stamkos. Sign Ott for no apparent reason (I think he'll surprise folks, but we really didn't NEED him.) Previously re-signed Miller, which his was not needed either. Gave Glendening way too much money on an extension. Failed to (or refuses to) trade Howard and Ericsson. I give him credit for not wanting to overpay for Shattenkirk, Trouba or Fowler. Then, waives promising young player in Frk, even though he surprisingly had a better camp than most. Waived and lost Pulkkinen as well. Not as big as Frk, but still lost for free. Not what I would call a very successful off season. I usually am on the side of we'll make the playoffs no problem. Not this year. Boston got better. Montreal has a healthy Price. Tampa has all their returning players, including a happy Drouin, who is great. Plus Florida is still better. This is the year the streak ends and Holland needs to ******* go! It's pretty sad that Yzerman is ranked a better GM than Holland. But we'd rather keep Holland and let Mr. Red Wing leave.

Holland 's leg or Kronwall's? Krsmith, yes I agree neither should be protected. If we aren't acquiring anyone, they should protect DD, Sproul, XO. Of course that leaves Marchenko exposed.

He only owns Red Wings and Tigers.

I think one certain team in particular will really regret it!

Holland cannot trade these guys because GM'S know he's going to lose them to waivers every year. He will not be able to trade Sproul either, teams are salivating at the chance to get him for nothing when Kronwall comes back. Just so we can play Ericsson every game. Just wait until Holland protects both Kronwall and Ericsson come expansion draft. In other news, Darren Helm is fast.

In other news Darren Helm is fast.

It sure is bizarre. We are now $6M over the cap with everyone that's on our final roster. I know Franzen, Vitale and it looks like Kronwall salary won't count to start the season, but weird call up.

I cannot figure out how to paste a link on here, but www.todaysslapshot.Com says the Red Wings recalled G Pasquale today.for the story go to website and click on the "latest " tab. Possible trade coming? If so, I figured Coreau would be the call up though. Not quite sure what this explanation means.

I think of all the lost players to waivers over the years, Frk would have been the best to keep. They could've easily kept him until they decided to send Mantha down today and kept him to see if he could actually play here. Then waive him later on if not. Now we'll never know, unless he starts doing good in Carolina. Since this thread is about Pulk, it always sucks to lose someone for free, but it was painfully obvious he was never going to be utilized correctly here. I wish him a great career in Minny. I sure wish we could've gotten at least some future considerations for him.

No, I understand that. I'm just saying that a lot of folks here said that it was never out there that Suter preferred Detroit as a team. I know the story goes we lost out to family, but there was always an argument that Suter never said he wanted to be here, it was always Minnesota. The fire Holland part is to stay with the theme of what happened this weekend. And people thought Trump had a bad weekend!

I understand the problem. All of our depth forwards, two of which we lost, are 3rd liners or better. Keeping them here in a 4th line or 13th fwd capacity is a waste. That being said, maybe, if we absolutely had to re-sign Helm, maybe they should've left Miller and Ott alone. Because a 4th line of Sheahan-Helm-Glendening would be fine. That would've made a 3rd line of Mantha -AA- Frk very exciting to watch. We'd still have to deal with Jurco and Pulkkinen, or just start AA and Mantha in GR until we traded to make room.Holland is the only GM to get fleeced for his prized young prospects. Hell , at the very least, it's two less bargaining chips we could've used in a package to upgrade our D. Now all we have is Jurco and even better prospects. So if a trade is made, get ready! Cannot wait to lose Sproul when Kronwall gets back, just so we can keep Erection.

Bob Duff on WDFN. Btw, I told you Suter wanted to play here. http://kuklaskorner.com/tmr/comments/bob-duff-speaks-with-wdfns-sheppard?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Holland needs to be fired. In other news, Helm sure is fast.

The only reason Holland has any creedance as a gm is thanks to Jimmy D and Scotty. Holland has yet to build a team that does much more than get swept out of the 1st round. 08 was still a lot of Scott's players.

...also, I agree, now that we've lost Frk and more than likely Pulk, in XO or Sproul is waived, I am officially out. Peace. Deuces.