LeftWinger

Ya, pretty much means Stamkos told him to jump off a cliff. Holland has ruined this franchise with his stupid contracts to players who aren't worth it:Ericsson, Kronwall, Howard, Franzen, Helm. I'm surprised KFQ isn't getting a 5 yr deal because he knows our system. Helm will get a NMC and KFQ will be signed before summer is over. That's Holland, search those feelings.

If Holland doesn't get a defenseman then he will lose players to waivers. He has 16 forwards signed, Pulk to yet sign and Frk out of exemptions along with the others that were out of them last season. Also those 16 signed forwards does not include AA, he makes 17, Pulk and Frk make 19. Sure AA and Mantha have exemptions, so I guess we will 17 once Pulk signs, but it's still too many...he must trade 2 forwards and 1 D to acquire a better dman. Maybe another forward for conditional pick. Howard must go as well, I can't believe he is being so loyal when his cap is suffering. Or will be soon once DD and Mrazek get their contracts.

Heck, retire all 3 then. All at the new arena. Of course no 40 until Z is done

So, this guy renigs on his contract to play close to family...then signs to play on a team 30 hours away from his daughter. Automatically disqualifies has # from being retired in my book.

Holland paid a 4th liner who cannot score a goal $3.8M for the next 5 yrs and more than likely with a NMC. You better believe he will overpay to get Fowler. This guy did give a 1st rounder for KFQ.

Acquire Fowler Holland will. Search those feelings... Two forwards and a D will be traded.

It's a horrible contract. Period. It's not like it's a 1 or 2 yr thing either. It's 5 ******* yrs of horrible contract. There will be a NMC or NTC, then it'll be an even more horrible contract.

That's too funny! I knew ducks needed a goalie, as a matter of fact I mentioned packaging Howard for Fowler a couple months ago. I guess Holland feels jimmy and his cap are far more valuable than a draft pick. All bitching aside about helm, Howard is the real waste of money. Damn I wish Holland wasn't so stupid when it comes to his players. Coreau has to go through waivers, I hope someone snags him just to spite.

We could've done without him. If he left, we wouldn't miss him. That's why it was wasted money. But as long as he plays where he belongs, then do be it. Again, we're going to have to trade enough forwards though so legit top 9 guys aren't sitting around or in GR.

Power(less)play WAS the issue. Having a better coach and better personnel (Vanek and Nielsen) should alliviate that issue. It may not be the best in the league, but it will be better.

Wings will trade for Fowler. I'll stop the Helm hate, until he proves, yet again where he belongs in the lineup. Which is nowhere near top 6. If they play him top 6 again all year, then the hammer needs to come down, or he needs to score 25 goals and prove he belongs there. I just hope that the trade for Fowler involves enough forwards so no desrving one is forced to sit or be in GR.

He won't get 20 points. $1M is money wasted? No, $3.8M is money wasted on a bottom 6 guy. He is no better than a 4th line player, he's proven it over and over. Hands of cement, defensive lapses more than a few times. I'm not saying Miller/Ott are better, but Helm is far from worth the contract he got. And if when all the details come out and he has any kind of clause, Holland deserves to be fired...this is right up there with the constant signing of the clearys, sammys and berts.

Bet he has a NMC, then he'll have to be protected. I'm absolutely positive he will. Worst signing ever.

I like the combos, but ott will not be waived. He was brought here to play and play he will. Helm was the useless signing.

Ya, look at the log jam caused by re-signing Helm. This guy will be the downfall of this all because he MUST play in the top 9. He is no better than a 4th liner, but no, he is now going to bump more deserving 3rd liners out of the organization...

Trade jimmy....

We'll we just hit the....

Yes, but Helm is not top 9 material, but because of his contract he won't be 4th line. If he were on the 4th, I could agree with you, but he's not better than the 3 I listed on my 3rd line. Helm was not signed to be 4th line, but he isn't as good as players that should be 3rd line. Because of his deal, one or both AA and Mantha will be in GR.Plus disney.com isn't going anywhere.

I think he'll be awarded vaisilovskiy money. So if Holland is offering $4M+ he best take it or he'll find himself south of $4M. He has no water to tread when comparing himself to vaisilovskiy.

IMO, we have a 4th line, Miller - disney.com - Ott There's no need to keep Jurco or Pulk if they're not going to get top 9 play. There is also no need to keep them in the press box. Trade them for something. You have very capable 13th/14th forwards tgat are in GR. Mantha and AA should be on the opening night roster. If, for tgat to happen, Nyquist needs to be dealt, so be it. Problem is, there is no room with the signing of Helm. He has taken up a very valuable roster spot. IMO this should be the lineup: Zetterberg - Larkin - Abby Tatar - Nielsen - Vanek Sheahan - AA - Mantha Miller - disney.com - Ott Frk ...but Helm screws the whole thing up.

I agree, but then again, there has been very little room on this team with the wasting of money and roster spots for KFQ and BFE. KFQ should've never been resigned 4 years ago. E should be gone now. If these two weren't on the roster the last 4 years, then we could've maybe seen what XO or Sproul could do in the NHL. Jensen was the best puck moving dman last training camp, but didn't get to sniff NHL ice because of the jam up. There's only one spot open, I hope Holland loses the other two for free just because of his "loyalty" to overpaid, overrated defensemen.

Sure, but I maintain 4 yrs should be something that's good for both sides. Just my opinion.

Well they have to make it now....I believe one of them will be dealt of lost to waivers.

Both he and DD must realize we only have $9M available with Franzen and Vitale LTIR. 4 years $4.5M AAV for both. Doesn't sound like they're being screwed with that.

No to #90....bad juju. Nielsen will take #51, I bet.