LeftWinger

I hope ASP comes right to Detroit (don't wanna go over in games though, can't burn one of those contract years) and Holl sits the rest of the season. May as well sit others too and bring up a couple more prospects.

....so, is the season pretty much a wrap?

Draft Day Blockbuster Trade the #2 OA and Rangers 3rd to Buffalo for the #4 OA and Byram, draft Porter Martone. -or- Same trade with Nashville for #4OA and Stamkos. IF we stayed similar here, I would entertain a trade back with Vancouver for their 1st and Boeser, then trade that 1st, Liam Dower Nilsson (rights) and Rangers 3rd to Buffalo for Byram and their 2nd, then draft Amico.

Rumor has it, ASP will be coming over to Detroit after the Swedish season ends. That is when Holl will be waived again. Of course we cannot have ASP play more than the allotted games so he doesn't burn a year of his ELC. I think 9 games?

It's essentially a make-or-break situation for Detroit. This race is incredibly close and they have wasted 10 points in the last 5 games—games that were within their reach. Can Smith and Mrazek provide the necessary depth and experience? Or will they simply be press box warmers who indulge in hoagie snacks? I don't care if we lose in the first round; I want to make the playoffs. I am exhausted by lottery picks and the disappointment of missing the playoffs. Current Wild Card standing March 10, 2025

Talk here about any movement that may happen, or things you'd like to see. I still maintain The Wings should be in on trying to acquire Cam Fowler. I also think they should be in on acquiring, if indeed Toronto is going to move him, Tim Liljegren.

OFFICIAL 2025 TDL THREAD It's time to s*** or get off The Juck ******* Pott! In my view, the team ought to focus on acquiring players for the future. Notable examples include Dylan Cozens, Bowen Byram, Zac Jones, Morgan Frost and Ryan Lindgren. This approach should be pursued regardless of whether they are contending or not. It is essential to acquire young talent who will contribute to the team for many years to come. While draft picks hold value, Detroit requires immediate impact players in the NHL, rather than enduring yet another cycle of three to five years spent on development. It is imperative to utilize those draft picks for trades. *UPDATED* https://www.dailyfaceoff.com/news/vancouver-canucks-j-t-miller-will-remain-no-1-on-trade-targets-board-until-hes-traded notably not on the list is Elias Pettersson, who, on one podcast I watched, is basically 1B with Miller. (just to keep this epic quote alive!) (plus I bumped the original thread so we could relive the original text! Page 12)

Senators vs. Red Wings Date: Monday, March 10 Time: 7:30 p.m. ET The legendary showdown unfolds as the Detroit Red Wings aim to break their five-game slide with a crucial victory over the Ottawa Senators. Ottawa stands at 32-25-5 overall and 7-8-1 against the Atlantic Division. The Senators command the ice, ranking seventh in league play with 246 total penalties, averaging 4.0 per game. Detroit, with a record of 7-9-1 against the Atlantic Division and 30-27-6 overall, faces their challenge. The Red Wings hold a 6-7-3 record in games where their opponents navigate fewer penalty minutes. The teams will clash on Monday for the third time this season, with the Red Wings having triumphed in the last encounter, winning 3-2 in a dramatic overtime finish. TOP PERFORMERS: In the spotlight, Tim Stutzle dazzles with 20 goals and 45 assists for the Senators, while Brady Tkachuk has netted six goals and provided two assists over the past 10 games. For the Red Wings, young star Lucas Raymond shines brightly with 22 goals and 43 assists. Meanwhile, Alex DeBrincat has scored six goals and tallied five assists in his last 10 outings. LAST 10 GAMES: Senators: 4-5-1, averaging three goals, 4.9 assists, 3.8 penalties, and 8.5 penalty minutes, while yielding 3.4 goals per game. Red Wings: 3-6-1, averaging 2.8 goals, 4.6 assists, 2.4 penalties, and 5.9 penalty minutes, while surrendering 3.8 goals per game. As the tension builds, who will emerge victorious in this battle on the ice? Critical game for playoffs! I certainly hope Mrazek is starting because we need to see what he can do. This is no time just to have him as a depth 3rd starter, put him in and see if he makes a difference. Smith better be playing as well. The projected lineup shows them not even dressing, I certainly hope this is not the case or else why even trade for them? It's not like they're on a 5 game win streak and they don't want to mess things up, put these guys in and lets see if they can help turn this around.

We wouldn't need to shed cap, they'd both fit under the current available, but we'd definitely have to make a spot available for one or both of them. Holl and Lagesson are good choices if Yzerman wants to see if either of those guys can play with the adults.

No, no, no, I am not saying you are wrong, I am saying that if they lose tonight and decide to pull the plug, they may as well have pulled the plug on Friday instead of waiting only 2 more games. It's too late to sell, so they really can't just bring up more kids to play instead of the vets because there are roster limits. They could totally afford to bring up a couple kids, but the roster is full and they'd have to waive players to make room. That is why we lost Fischer for free. I would be fine if we could still trade a player for at least a pick, but I don't want to lose anyone for free via waivers. We sit at 23/23 right now. Anybody left on our team right now, who would have to clear waivers, probably wouldn't...except for maybe Holl and Lagesson. I wouldn't mind giving Wallinder or Buium a shot if we waived one of those two back to GR.

Thing is, if this is the game to decide the season they should've sold all the vets Friday and let more of the kids play now. They already had a 4 game skid before the TDL, Washington would've been a tough game even if they were on a 4 game win streak. Mrazek is good depth and Smith is probably better and has more experience than Veleno. I'm hoping they just decide to "play ******* hockey" again and fight hard until it's over. There's 38 points available until the end of the season. Other than Ottawa, those other teams really didn't do much to be "in" for the playoffs. We have to hope that we can heat up again and Columbus and Montreal cool hit a snag like we're in. My thing is, you acquired players to see if they can help get you into the playoffs. They better play until we know if that answer is yes or no. If they're going to sit out, why acquire them at all? They aren't helping them from the stands. Yzerman obviously thought this could help, or he would've sold off players for only picks, and not depth, so they better damn play.

Well, Hmmmmm.... I guess Yzerman will not be satisfied until all his goalies are hexed! Welcome back Petr? Your hoagie awaits!

Could you imagine the old Leftwinger on this day!? anyhow... Veleno hasn't been effective here, so it's not a significant loss, but the return we received was disappointing. It takes me back to when Holland made questionable moves, trading away too much for David Legwand, and then again for Erik Cole. I am not casting any negative light on Mrazek or Smith personally; they might turn out to be fine here, but it was indeed the defense that needed the most attention. This is an utter failure. Adding to the frustration is the return San Jose received for Walman; it felt like rubbing salt into an already open wound. That, I believe, is what troubles most fans the most. I would genuinely like to understand what Walman did to irritate Yzerman... Can we look towards the draft and perhaps hope for a trade to improve the defensive lineup? I still contend that there isn't anyone in our draft range who will surpass Byram. I don't think any fan would express dissatisfaction if Yzerman decided to trade the #13-ish pick as part of a package for him. Of course, that being said, we remain unaware of what the asking price was for players he may have initiated discussions about. In my opinion, Danielson, Kasper, ASP, and MBN are practically untouchable unless we’re talking about a significant upgrade in return. I even hesitate slightly regarding trading Wallinder or Buium. So I understand, prices were high; we observed that (except for the Marchand deal, which raises some eyebrows), so perhaps a few of these young players they were linked to were simply too costly to acquire. I am playing devil's advocate, but we just don’t have all the information. That being said, Yzerman has made some poor trades for quite some time now, which is peculiar since he used to outsmart the other GMs, or at least secure great deals. Every trade, including and leading up to the Debrincat deal, was favorable. Although, Dcat was clear that he would only re-sign in Detroit, which gave Yzerman the upper hand in that negotiation. Let’s hold on tight, hoping that Smith matches or exceeds Copp's production and significance, and for Pete's sake (pun intended), let’s wish that Mrazek comes in and performs as well or better than Talbot. It's difficult to assess his statistics given the struggles of that awful Hawks team. He was quite reliable in Carolina, with his save percentages for all three years exceeding 90%. His best season featured a save percentage of .923 and a GAA of 2.06. I hope we achieve success, but considering the way Florida, Tampa, Toronto, and Ottawa left us behind during the TDL, it’s going to be challenging. We face a tough battle against the Metro teams to secure that last wild card spot. I don’t believe we will surpass the four teams ahead of us in our division. However, we do have a fighting chance against the Jackets, Rangers, and Islanders. Moreover, we also have Montreal and Boston tied with us in points.

No more moves. Yzerman has lost it.

Yzerman has lost his mind.

Cozins to Ottawa for Norris and Benard-Docker. To be fair, we probably could not have matched that.

I'd be perfectly fine with selling and also picking up an NHL player or two for our future. Cozens and Byram for example. But I feel he'll dump Tarasenko and maybe another vet and just go with the remaining roster.

I'm going to retract a portion of that last post. It is nice to see that his 1st round picks from 2019, 20, 21, and 22 are all in the NHL contributing. Danielson and MBN along with ASP shouldn't be far behind. I just think it's time to make that step into a playoff team. Gamble, trade a 1st for someone like Byram or Zegras or Cozens. Trading one 1st in a weaker draft isn't going to hurt us with the prospects we already have.

I'm not. He'll probably do the same as last season, dump a player or two for junk draft picks or that superstar forward named Future Considerations, then have a press conference explaining how fans should be patient and how we build through the draft, x player has done better, etc...etc... I'm really over it. As are, I feel, a lot of fans. This Walman fubar really broke our backs as fans. Now, if he pulls off a couple great acquisitions today, I'm ok with admitting my overreaction to how he's done things the last couple of seasons. But hanging on to Blashill too long, Lalonde too long, coupled with the asinine trades he's made since the DeBrincat trade. Questionable UFA signings, too much money given to bottom 6 players like Veleno and Rasmussen. Also, if he's so high on his draft picks, sell off the vets and bring them up. Let's see them. I'm over hanging on to picks and drafting players that take 3-5 years to make it. It's time to trade some 1sts to make the team better. Using Cozens and Byram as an example, there's no player he can draft in the teens that is better than either of those two. Plus they're still only 23. The asking price for one of them can't be more than a player, prospect and a 1st. I'd love to see where this team would be if they still had Ghost, Walman and Perron.

San Jose gets a 1st round pick and a 25 year old center Walman. So in the end they literally got Carl Berglund, a 1st and a 2nd for Future Considerations. I never thought I'd say this, but Yzerman is an embarrassing joke. He has until the deadline today to make all this right.

There's nobody he's gonna draft at 15 that's going help this team. Package some picks and upgrade this team! I'm so angry right now, sorry... I'm glad I'm working tomorrow and won't be watching the TDL show. The Walman situation has put me over the edge man... it was stupid when he traded him and now it's a disaster. This is something Ken Holland would do.

The Yzerplan is dead.

So.... now I'm seriously questioning Yzerman's sanity. He trades Walman AND a 2nd to San Jose for future considerations, now San Jose is trading him to Edmonton for a ******* 1st round pick!!! https://x.com/TheFourthPeriod/status/1897804423612469567?t=22rvpb1CriZv3KB1UL3Rsg&s=19

I guess I just feel that helping out a division rival possibly win the Cup is worth a bit more than a 4th round pick. Here's to hoping Yzerman makes a deal or three by tomorrow!

Wtf is Yzerman doing? He added $1.2M to the cap and only acquired a conditional 4th? All the while giving away Kyle Aucoin and helping division rival Tampa get better? Isn't Gourde worth more than a 4th, especially retaining salary? I think Yzerman has lost his mind!