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^^^ There ya go! Actually got a 1st seed that year as well. Of course Blash is no Bowman, but as long as they get this thing turned around soon, we should be alright!

I still say it won't take Mantha. Look at all the pending UFA's that were traded last season, it didn't take that much to move them. Even Kessel didn't garner a TOP prospect and he wasn't even a pending UFA. No team is looking to overpay for a player they may not even retain after July. The ONLY way it'll cost a player like Mantha is if Holland doesn't care if he loses Byf or Mantha and just wants to outbid all other teams. Unless another team has an inside track or is aobut to negotiatie a deal to sign Byf, I cannot think of one team that would give away a 1st, roster player AND one of their top 3 prospects just for a rental, no rental is worth that, unless, like I said, he commits to a contract the same day he is acquired. I still maintain that Helm, Sproul (or XO) and a 1st would be plenty to obtain him, it may even be overpayment and a ton to lose if Byf walks after July. Especially if the Wings don't get their act together, that 1st rounder may be a good one.

Hoping for a win tonight! Regarding our schedule and hitting the panic button...I thought about this last night, there is always that ONE team every year that is a bottom dwellar and yet still has our number, ex. Florida last season (even though they turned it on a bit later on) but usually your schedule against teams is spread out so much that you aren't playing them every week. This year, obvioulsy Carolina has our number (even in the 1st meeting) and if those 3 games were spread out over 4-5 months the losses wouldn't look so bad, but the fact that we've played them 3 times in three weeks basically, it magnifies the fact that this team has our number and makes our w/l record seem worse... I am not saying the Wings don't have issues, because they did lose to Calgary, Edmonton and Ottawa as well, but I just believe that even though 6 lossess to 4 teams is stil 6 losses, it looks worse than it is because we just happen to hit that team that has our number and have played all the game against them in 3 weeks. After saying that, I certainly hope they pull one out tonight so we can start turning this thing around and don't get so far down that we are counting on Pav/Rich/Green to be our saviours when they just aren't going to be that. They well all help this team to be better, but labeling them that way and expecting that much is putting a ton of pressure on them and us as fans will be set up for a major disappointment. This team needs a shot of something to get back on the right track before these guys get healthy, at least better than .500. IF and it's a big IF, If they haven't gotten this ship righted by december, I certainly hope they explore trade option before it becomes too late to crawl out of the hole.

wow....something's wrong here guys. What are they gonna do? I sure hope when Pav, Richards and Green get back we can go on a 20-1 run...

Kopitar would cost at least $8.5M I would think. He is at $6.8M right now, IF he wanted to be a Wing I don't think he fact that he was a fan would factor into the money he would accept from Holland. That would be a score of the century that is for sure! Why not we trade for him? Now if we're talking Kopitar, I have no issue including Mantha in a huge package.

so you say they would have no interest in XO or Sproul, but they'd take Kindl? Helm, XO & a 1st is way good enough for a UFA to be. He may not be a Red Wing ever, but guarantee he goes for similar or less!

No way they'd expect Mantha....Sproul and XO are two of our TOP D prospects, NHL ready, the 1st rounder may be another mid teen pick and Helm is Helm. That is plenty of a package.

I was just wondering about McKee, anyone been paying attention to him at Western? Does he look like he may make GR anytime soon?

No to Mrazek....period. But, I would come with the offer of Helm, (one of) XO/Sproul and a 1st round pick. Even then I would be working like gangbusters to resign him, because to me thats a lot going back to WPG. But if he does what he supposed to do plus re-signs, it'd be well worth it. to WPG: Darren Helm, Xavier Oullet (or Sproul,) 1st rnd pick. to DET: Dustin Byfuglien How I'd use him is most definitely on the top pairing, but I would also put him in front of the net on the top power play.

​Dang, installed Win10 with new settings and I still cannot quote someone...crap Anyhow, Blash is our future, he will have just as much if not more success than our former coach. Next you'll be saying trade Franzen! Sheesh! Cannot believe this has 2 pages of replies...

So, it was brought to attention last night that Gus wasn't on Sheahan's line that year...oops! You're right, I don't know why I thought it was Nyquist that was there, but that was the year he spent most of it in GR. The line indeed was Tats - Sheahan - Jurco. I still say, while we have a few injuries lets give AA a look. Its not going to hurt and like stated, this team won't miss Andy or Ferraro for a handful of games. After last nights lack luster effort they could use a change for a bit. Nyquist - Z - Fonduvader Pulk - Larkin - AA Tats - Sheahan - Jurco Miller - Glen - Helm

we haven't been good since Franzen went out! Wait, what? Maybe its just a coincidence...or is it? Sheahan isn't being seen out there because of his linemates...no offense to Helm or Glen, but literally, there is no offense there. Put Tats and Jurcs back with him. (I was for sure that Gus played on that line, but ya that was the year Gus spent most the year in GR in favor of Cleary, Sammy and Bert.)

hey look, pistons up 16 in the 4th...

that's it boys...tonights line combos killed us. If they aren't changed up by Ottawa, it'll be more of the same.

hah! All the s*** let go the past 10 mins and they call that?!? You can't say something isn't fishy! That was horse s***

its time to shake up the lines...move Abby off the top line and see if something gets sparked...

whistles put away...

Two non calls... that last play should have been a "Kronwalling" but he is too afraid to do it anymore.

I think Blash's experiment with that bottom 6 needs to be flushed. Its time to sit Andy, move Helm and Glenny back to 4th and promote AA.

that third line is atrocious...so is the 4th btw.

if that were Holmstrom in front on that goal it'd been called off...

on that play Petr was just like Hasek...lets call it a MrHazsek play. Sure glad we got it back. I can honestly say, this would not miss Smith or Erection. Just my opinion.

Bill, I get what you are saying, but it makes ZERO sense to sign Richards and then send him down. Besides, on his 35+ contract might leave a ton of his salary against the cap, the most you can bury is $950,000, hence the reason Cleary was signed to that exact much. Miller and Richards will be here this season, more than likely not next year, that is when we'll see the like of AA & Mantha making the jump I do believe.

Dickie, that's exactly why you sit Andy and Ferraro to see what AA can do in the top 6. Miller - Glenny - Helm would be a great 4th line. As a matter of fact that'd be a damn good 4th line. Tatar - Z - Abby Pulk - Larkin - AA Jurco - Sheahan - Nyquist MIller - Glen - Helm It wouldn't hurt to ice that team until Richards and/or Pav come back. We won't miss neither of Ferraro or Andy on the 4th. If you must, then switch around AA and Nyquist or Pulk. I simply love the chemistry that Gus, Tinky and Jurcs had before, would love to see if they could rekindl (pun intended) it.

Simple answer: No Complex Answer: No!