LeftWinger

Holland is business savvy. I don't doubt he is saying things even though the truth may be opposite... I love all this Pulk and Mantha suck stuff! Pulk only lead the AHL in points all with playing 31 games in Detroit. Mantha started the season with a broken leg and even after that had 33 points in 62 games, that is getting a point every 2 games...not bad for someone who missed most of training camp and had to make up for lost time. I know Jimmy D said what he said and he knows more than all of us combined, but I reserve my assessment on him after a full healthy season. Even the likes of Abby had less than a point a game in his first AHL season and look how he turned out in the NHL. I know Mantha was touted to be "that sniper" but if he turns into a solid player like Abby and scoring 20+ goals a season, I think he will have a very successful NHL career... What happens when/if Larkin only scores .6 points a game in his first full season in GR? Does he suck then?

I agree with Gretzky, Nyquist should have started that season in Detroit, also I agree last season, Jurco should've spent the year in GR, considering he had the exemption, he would've developed a little more to the NA game. Not that he would've been a big hit here, but we would have never lost Nestrasil for nothing. Sure, the log jam this year would've been a body larger, but who knows...I know he wasn't a huge loss, but you guys know my disgust with losing someone or nothing. ALTHOUGH, after Nyquist was called up he was the hottest scorer in the league practically, could you imagine the contract he'd have now (as opposed to $4.75M) if he had played that entire season and scored at that pace for 65-82 games?

azzz, that's just the thing, IF Franzen played healthy, but he won't, its just like saying IF Fedorov never left, his number would already be retired. I would also say, if Franzen were to play healthy he would most definitely be on one of the top 2 lines all year, so IF Pulk was with Z or D all year, he would most definitely score more than Franzen. Lot of IF's here, but until either one plays all year healthy and strong and proves everyone otherwise, I am going with the odds that Franzen is done, and Pulk will blossom playing more minutes and more quality minutes.

Yes....he may not played with him all the time, but Nyquist played a hell of a lot more wth Z than Pulk did(if at all) respectively in their first 30-40 games...and more on the PP. Just saying, Nyquist got better icetime in those 11:68 per game than Pulk did in his 8:88....

Ok, so Nyquist played 11:68 (12:08 maybe?) and Pulk 9:28 and Pulk had one more goal and only 5 less points. So that proves that much lilke Nyquist, Pulk started slow getting his feet wet. Why is it not air to believe that he will not break out, much like Nyquist when he plays more like Nyquist got to the last two seasons?

kickazz, I don't turn on player left and right. I admit, I have turned on a couple, Q and Franzen to name two, but not before they have PROVEN in the NHL that they aren't worth the money or the roster spot. Granted, Q did better last season, but he makes too much money. I know the market dictates it, but I think Holland should have just let him go when he was UFA instead of spend the $4.25M on him...we would've had XO or Marchy all season last year and this year. Franzen....nevermind, I need not get in to that subject...its been well discussed. Doesn't mean I will TURN on Pulk, but at least give him a full season to prove whether or not he is indeed worthy of an NHL spot. He will MOST definitely do a s*** ton better than Franzen will.

I think its funny how folks already say he stinks or is going to stink. He led the entire AHL in points and that is with playing 31 games up here. Nyquist led the AHL in points as well when he first spent some significant time up in Detroit. BTW, in Nyquist's 1st 40 games as a Red Wing, 4 goals, 13 points - Pulk's first 34 games, 5 goals, 8 points. Nyquist played with Z a lot in those first 40 games, Pulk played mostly 4th line (or less) minutes. This guy is not as quite of a playmaker as Nyquist, but he is a pure scorer. I predict a 25-30 goal season for Pulk IF he stays 3rd line or higher and sees significant PP time. His shot is unbelievably fast, unlike the Wings have had since Brett Hull. He will most likely get a 2-3 year $3.5M deal after this season, if not more. Jurco also had 15 goals while playing mostly 4th line minutes. When this guy get back with Sheahan (or even a better center) he too could very well top 25 goals. This is a good thing, but he too will get that $3.5M deal or higher and then things really get sticky with the cap. You know Mrazek is getting at least $5M, Danny D is getting at least Q's $4.75M, Abby with his emergence will most definitely top $3M (he's a UFA, so it may be $4M+) Helm, as well. He has proven that he is at least in the median player salary area, so his modest contract now will be at least $4M next year...this does not add up too well for the cap. You think we are over now? Just wait until next year. IF Franzen, Howard and Ericsson aren't gone this season, they have to go next. There just won't be any cap space to re-sign your players that are your core of the future. s***, I nearly forgot about Sheahan and the raise he will garner. Maybe won't be as significant as others, but he most certainly will top $2M I would think...

Sheesh, I didn't realize that he played 31 games last year....boy, Babcock really had him buried on the bench, eh? He only struggled because he was mostly 4th line. When he did get minutes above the 4th, he scored. I fully believe with 3rd line and PP time, he will shine bright. Of course then next year he will get the $3M+ deal... number9, I will leave the digging to you guys, because its what you love to do when you try to prove I didn't say what I said. I will gloat, because when I am wrong I eat the crow, so when I am right, I will gloat. If you haven't realized that in nearly 10,000 posts, you never will.

some have already turned on him...the guy have 5 goals in his short stay with Detroit and minimal usage by Babcock. Give him quality 3rd line minutes and PP time? I believe he will be a hot one. Calder?

so possible big raises next year PLUS 4 defensmen out of exemptions...oh boy!

would have much easier without the contracts of Franzen, Quincey and Howard. Guarantee Pulk outearns his contract while Franzen gets $4M to perform way less than him. Willing to bet Pulk out scores him by at least double the points.

no, it wasn't, but during all the rumors I simply said what I said about the trainers comments. Adding some level of why they may the ones talked about being traded. Of course, they mocked back then and they still mock now. But that's ok, I happen to enjoy hearing things from people with info that hasn't made the news yet. I will take the mocking because when I say something and it happens, then I love when they try to say I didn't say it. Like over two years ago when I said within 2-3 seasons Howard will lose his starting job to Petr. Should see the comments I got from that. I don't know crap about hockey, jimmy is the one to take them all the way, go root for the Flyers...blah, blah, yadda. I revel in watching them all slowly change their tune to support what I have said for years. Hudler, Franzen, Howard...they all loved them, berated me for disliking them, but then slowly they all turn and start supporting the opposite...its funny! Just remember though, I don't know s***.

you sure are cool! We all wanna be like you when you grow up.

George Malik is also reporting it. Great news!

I didn't bring this whole thing up to begin with, You have number9 and Rick Zombo to thank for this, but since I was being made fun of and mocked before I even said anything, I damn sure was going to set the record straight and put out there exactly who and what I do know. I was just putting out there that it was not Helm that the trainer said was the lazy one because you guys so eloquently described the situation that a friends uncles illegitimate child said so. I said the it was a friend who skates with a Wings trainer, and it was Kindl and Smith, not Helm. Then I explained why I said Helm was tradable. Everyone else took off with the whole thing. Besides, people do care when it comes to someone saying that they heard some inside info. They want to know where. Back then, that was inside info...and guess who was being talked about this trade deadline all the time BY NHL INSIDERS, not just fans, Smith and Kindl were names most always in the conversation. So again, tell me when I am wrong about something, prove it and I will take the medicine, but as of today, any info that I heard from the few friends I have that know some people, has been correct. My friend Jeff, who was dating Danny D's sister said he was choosing Detroit before he even came out of college, the Wings trainer said Smith and Kindl were lazy and the team didn't want them and I said look for them to be on the trading block because the powers that be (at that time Babcock) thought they weren't cut out to be on this team. Kindl was talked about a lot before, but wow, when did Smith get thrown in there all of a sudden, hmmmm, because Babcock didn't like him. You guys basted me back then when I said he wasn't liked and would probably be on the block...wow, low and behold, he was on the block. Don't be mad because someone knows someone. Don't mock or make fun because you want to be the cool kid. Show me where I was wrong about any of it and then fine. I have yet to proven wrong on most things. Just realize that players and stars are people too and they all have normal lives and know normal people outside of their craft. And that is coming directly from my uncles mom's next door neighbor's pet Doberman's trainers son's best friend from Sidney, Australia.

Jealousy looks so bad.

an entire thread could be made about dbag players...

maybe I should, because there's just no way that a commoner could ever know anyone outside of Hazard County. Guess I'll go to farmers only dot com and stick with the poor folk. Not that farmers are poor, but boy they sure can tell a tale! I guess I was put in my place, I dont know anyone...jenny McCarthy?

back on topic, I sure hope these guys sign soon, I really want to see if Blashill has any magic he can work with those two...

Obviously you guys don't remember squat. It's my friend who skates in a pick up hockey league with one of the trainers, and it wasn't Helm, it was Kindl and Smith that had the character issues, Helm was described as a "Barbie doll" by said trainer. BUT, its not like I hate the guy, I just said he became tradable with the emergence of Sheahan and Glendening. Because Helm was a coveted center at one time and he could bring us a nice return if he were packaged in a deal...sheesh guys, if you are going to blast me on things, at least get it right, what happened to all the looking up of old posts I did? They sure seem to pop up everytime I say that I grew sour on the Franzen deal right away... But, ya, if you must know, some of the overpaid tradable players that would make room for more cap space and or the kids are indeed Howard, Franzen and Quincey. We have better quality assets already in the system that make way less money. $5M for a backup goalie is outrageous and he will get traded if not at the deadline, then next off season...but of course no one will get traded, we will waive two of Ferraro, Callahan and Andersson and we will get our cap relief that way. Of course since Datsyuk will miss October into November, we already get $7.5M in cap relief come end of training camp. So that works out for us right away. ..and as long as we are keeping score, in addition to my friend Dan who I mentioned above, my friend Jeff used to date Danny D's sister, that is how I learned of him and I work and have known Manny Legace's father-in-law for 20 years at THE major airline in Detroit before the merger as Northwest and now after the merger. His name is Chris (of course I am not saying the last names) and Chris' sister Joy also works with us and I have known her for nearly 25 years. BTW Manny's mother-in-law name? Sandy. It's hilarious how folks just don't think that people can know people just because they are famous. Another co-worker (former co-worker) has a child that has a rare muscle condition the requires help to even roll over in bed, his name is Rob, we used to call him tumbleweed, another friend by proxy helped him out in purchasing a bed that actually turns his son over every so often automatically, that name? Sergei Fedorov, you may have heard of him. Knowing him through Rob and family, is mostly why I defend him at every turn, especially when it comes to his reputation. BTW, even though I have never met him personally, but Manny's Father/Law is very close personal friends with Chelios, they still hang out from time to time. In another unrelated yet related topic, where I live now, near Silver Lake Sand Dunes, we have two famous actors and one former NBA player who have summer homes, former Piston Cliff Robinson, everyone's favorite barfly Norm, George Wendt and Dewey Cox himself, John C. Riley. My parents bowl with Uncle Cliffy and have met the other a few times, but I have not had the pleasure to do so... So, just so we know, this post is here forever so it can be traceable and if anyone needs to refer back to this in order to try to prove something, its all right here.

it appears that its going just a bit hard re-signing these two. Guess Holland just assumed that they would take the leftover tablescraps. Too many overpaid contracts on this team. Too many useless players that can easily be replaced with cheaper contracts.

damn it Robo! You had to come in with that story when we were all enjoying bashing Cleary! Seriously though, tough loss man, been there....i have nothing but condolences and prayers for you and your family. God Bless...even if you aren't a religious man, I am, and I know there is a God taking care of her right now. She is waiting for the day you two meet again...and it will be. Trust me.

That's not WATER!!!!!!

Besides, the new Arena won't be open until 2017..so you have two more seasons at the Joe. 15-16, 16-17. Ban Cleary has made $4.25M from the Wings the last 2 seasons, I thought the Philly "deal" was only around $3.5M for 3 seasons...I'd say Holland more than enough made good on his "handshake." No need to waste anymore money on this bag of bones.

demoted to the minors or not, any cap hit from a Ban Cleary signing would be too much against our cap. Especially where the cap stands at the moment. We will need every little bit we can get in order to keep our good players.