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I haven't see CPRICE12 around these parts for a LONG time! He was our resident Blues fan...maybe he got tired of getting beat all the time?

Nice! Boy, Danny D is really coming up! He made some great plays all game long! He should get one of the stars!

LGW! I sure hate (but love) Backes!

yeah! Poor Dion just can't get a break in TO. Reminds me of Murphy when he was there. Then he came to us and was great. Not saying we need Dion, but he needs out of TO!

Kip, that is a good point, and I do understand it. My point was just that I hated losing Hossa, and since Franzen was the main guy kept to be "The Sniper" on this team, I turned on Franzen when he NEVER even came close to being the right guy. I understand the business aspect of it, but even back then I was in favor of dumping Hudler, Filppula and Franzen instead of losing Hossa. I always was pro-Hossa and always will be. My whole point that started this was, I didn't think losing Hossa in favor of Franzen was the right thing to do, and I was right. Hossa has 2 Cups to our none since he left. So even though Holland chose to keep three players instead of one, it didn't help us what so ever. Hudler and Filppula left anyhow and Franzen is nitrous garbage. So, losing all three of them and keeping Hossa would not have hurt the team, and it may have even bettered the team because Hossa would've been on Dats' wing this whole time (more than likely) and probably would have scored more shootout goals... I get it, hindsight is 20/20, but I was never in favor of losing Hossa. And no,I do not blame Franzen for taking the money, hell, he got a free ride into the millionaire's club. He has nowhere near earned his money while here. I was ONLY in support of him signing and his contract if we could've kept Hossa. I wasn't after we lost Hossa mainly because Franzen took the money and ran, or should I say floated. I said it in the original extension thread, the cap hit was too much, most other hated something about the term or the cap hit, so, krsmith, a lot of us were throwing s*** at the wall back then as well, and a lot of us were right. I just happen to be the biggest Franzen hater in this place, so I feel like celebrating that almost all the rest of the world has joined me on a boat I have been sailing for a long time!

Ok, no one can guess this one either, I must be making it too hard for you. Faith No More ok, a little easier one non-mono master of ceremony's (the 's is there purposely.)

one way out - Allman Brothers

go back to the franzen signs extension thread...not EVERYBODY was happy. Most, as a matter of fact, hated the term and a lot of us, me included, thought it was too high cap hit in order to make the team better. most of that thread had a lot of people NOT liking something about it. Again, if you read entire posts instead of just looking for things that may support your opinion, you'd be a bit wiser.

BTW, I cannot cut and paste, but I did just see in the original Frazen signs extension thread, a post where I thought I was in a GDT, where I said I like Franzen, but he should have signed for around $2.9M in order to secure more talent for more Cups. So yes, even back then I was weary of the cap hit, hoped at least we could still sign Hossa, got mad at Hossa for leaving (but Holland low-balled him) and turned on Franzen almost immediately, so read it however you may. Outside of the chance I thought we had to have both players, I NEVER was on the side of keeping Fraznen and not Hossa. NEVER.

Kip, I did say I was ok with the signing when it happened. I said, now lets get Hossa signed as well. But when it came down to choosing Fraznen OVER Hossa, I was never on board with that. You may or may not remember, I did talk crap about Hudler every chance I got when he was here, and I partied like 1999 when he left. The ONLY reason I "liked" the Franzen signing is if we could have also gotten Hossa on board. I NEVER advocated Franzen over Hossa.... I don't need any ass kissing, just read posts instead of picking out things that give false support to your argument. Back to topic..... Get well soon Johan! But I honestly hope you never play for the Wings again!

Yep, this team was MUCH better the years we had Francine and Hudler rather than having Hossa. Again after Francine was signed I said, YES! Now get Hossa signed and dump Hudler and Filppula. But we see that Holland chose to keep Hudler and Filppula and in turn forced Hossa to leave with an stupidly low ball contract offer. No doubt in my mind that this team would have challenged more for a Cup with Hossa and Franzen over Franzen, Hudler and Filppula. Hudler and Filppula are gone, I cannot wait for Franzen to leave, by whatever means. Sure, it doesn't change the fact that Hossa went to Chicago, but at least the reason(s) he did leave will all be gone! Again Kip, so you can understand it. I wasn't in favor of choosing Franzen over Hossa, but when Franzen signed, I was ok with it as long as the priority switched to Hossa and dumping Hudler and Filppula to make it happen. When Hossa left, I was angry at him for leaving, but then almost immediately turned my anger towards keeping Franzen, Hudler and Filppula. Thank you. Re-read all that stuff you pulled up from me instead of just cherry picking things here and there.

I wonder how long it will take krsmith to "get over it" when/if Smith is traded? Ever since the "Choice" Hossa has shined and Francine has been a pile of dog poop, fermenting and getting stinkier every year. He was "ok" the first year of his contract, then turn into a festering goop pile that gets slimier and slimier... Franzen is hot garbage, doesn't deserve to be on this team and should have been dealt with A LONG TIME AGO! At this point I would take Cleary on that "serious contract" than Francine for one more shift. I was over Francine a long time ago and cannot even stomach him wearing that sweater anymore. He had a stretch of what, 7 games this season where he fooled all of us into thinking he may have a decent season and be someone that he other teams need to keep an eye on? But since then, he is back, even worse than last season. This clown should've been the last buyout, I cannot believe Holland and a lot of people still think the 2008 Franzen is going to come back...how about getting over that?!?

how many more losses until the Wild ask Suter to waive his NTC?

Miller - Helm - Glenny I think I asked for that line!

Chicken Song - AFI

lol! I knew that this would be the next song written! Weird! What's the winning lottery numbers? Do Me - Boyz 2 Men

and they're back! Lol!

I just want to be your everything - Andy Gibb

hmmm....oddly enough, I don't see them anymore either... post.

yes. The Soup Dragons. Five For Fighting. Officially give in to Atheism.

Duschesne plays a different position. That year our D was stiffling, he was most definitely more important to the team D than Hossa was. So in that sense, Ducshesne was more important. But I see what you are tried to do. and to address my use of "better" Red Wings than Hossa. All those guys were willing to take much less money than market value to help keep this team in contention. Again, I, as many were, was mad when he left for more money. I don't know what the hell I brought Primeau up for, that could've been my anger about the whole situation...maybe. I will give you that one, I must have been not thinking straight! Although, Primeau did get us Shanny, so he was better than Hossa at bringing us a return! Oh well...

I still wanted Hossa. Did I support having both Franzen and Hossa? After both of their 2009 campaign's, absolutely I did. I did say when they signed Franzen that it pretty much screws us for Hossa unless he took a huge discount (in which he said he was willing to do) but then after Holland dinked around with keeping money for Hudler, Hossa split and I was angry, especially where he went. It is a bad thing to be upset with the player you wanted to stay when he bolts to a rivalry! For God's sake half of you guys still boo Fedorov. Nice work digging stuff up, but nowhere in any of that mess shows me supporting Franzen INSTEAD of Hossa. It shows me supporting both and dumping Hudler, Filppula and Samuelsson. But it also shows that I would've rather kept Hossa over Franzen when it came down to the choice. All this points in the same direction as I have always pointed when it came down to a choice, I wanted Hossa over Franzen. If you were around back then, you will also know my distain for Hudler. I wanted to trade Sammy and Flip as well. Sammy took a dump (although I was a bit hopeful for him when he returned the second time) Hudler was hot garbage and perhaps the only other Red Wing I hated more than Franzen. Filppula never panned out once he re-signed. He was helpful in 08, but he again, was a guy who got a nice raise and took it and ran and never really lived up to it for us. Was in support of him being traded when he had the value he had in 09. Trading Flip and Hudler at that time would've have been more valuable than keeping them (which was my opinion) and it played out to be true. Plus it limited our cash to keep Hossa after giving Franzen too much money. Again, nice try, but nowhere does it say I choose Franzen over Hossa. Franzen AND Hossa over keeping Flip and Hudler? At the time? Absolutely. But almost immediately after we lost Hossa, I was way OFF the Franzen wagon. And again, I was pissed that Hossa didn't take less to stay and that he left for Chicago. Doesn't mean I didn't wish Holland kept him over Franzen. Dickie, other than money, no way Franzen was a better deal than Hossa. Hossa to this day is a constant threat on this ice. Franzen is a threat TO the ice....melting it. And I have been hating him since he signed, and he has been more and more useless every year since...pretty soon Holland will be paying him to change his (Franzen's) depends when he can't hold his bowels anymore.

That's What Friends Are For - Stevie Wonder and a bunch of other singers...Dionne Warwick, etc...

I just love Skinny-Arms Rob Lowe! Deadpool or Deathstroke is basically a metaphor for Marvel vs. DC Comics. Deathstroke, AKA, "Slade" Wilson is an assassin in the DC Universe, he is extremely skilled in hand to hand combat, fire arms and other form of weaponry. He has healing factors and superhuman reflexes. Deadpool, AKA, "Wade" Wilson is an assassin in the Marvel Universe. He is extremely skilled in hand to hand combat, fire arms and other forms of weaponry. He has healing factors and superhuman reflexes. Deadpool or Deathstroke, like I said, is pretty much the poster children for Marvel vs. DC and which one you think is better. It would be like choosing Team Jacob or Team Edward to show your support of Wolf or Vampire. Me being a diehard Marvel fan, I choose Deadpool everytime. Although, Deathstroke is the older character and was created first, and it is obvious that Deadpool is a blatent parody of DC's more serious character. Hope that helps! Corey or Chum?

nah, not a new fangled rap group. Hint: the cold remedy may come in the chicken variety...such a divine thing!