LeftWinger

am I the only one who can't read Russian? To whom are we referring to who wanted $2.7M?

I can't tell if its a blow or not...i can't read it. all this kids or vet talk. I am in the side of signing two vet D men to let the kids get their feet wet for the next couple seasons. No Q or K...i like Morris and Mitchell (although I am sure Willie would like to stay in LA.) Whether you trade Smith or not, adding two vets like that makes this team harder to play against and doesn't require throwing two (more) rookies into the lineup...can't expect all of them to workout so quick like Nyke and Sheahan.

Calling it....Trade Kindl to the Island for Boyle and Nabby's rights...

no no no to re-signing Monster and Alfie. They cannot stay healthy enough. We are going to have the yearly Z, Franzine and Helm injuries. Its fact and we need less players that get hurt every year. Monster has a constant record of injuries yearly.

just as long as Quincey and Kindl are gone, that will be an upgrade on D. when is the draft anyhow?

I wouldn't be opposed to Boyle for a year or 2... Let Q walk, trade Kindl and Lashoff for a 2nd rounder...trade Helm, Smith, 1st for Kesler...sign Boyle, sign Morris, rotate Marchenko and XO in the 6th, 7th spot... Kronwall - Ericsson Dekeyser - Boyle Marchenko - Morris Ouellet

I don't mind Franzen's cap hit. I just hate him being called our go to guy when he sucks 3/4 of the year. I am tired of the inconsistency and non interested play. If he wasn't supposed to be our power forward and our sniper, then I would be happy with what he puts up. But since he has that label, he is horrible. He is absolutely the worst top 6 guy in the NHL. I still think a trade is what he needs to get interested again...and if he went somewhere else and scored 40, I wouldn't care, because he will never score 40 here...ever...he may never see 30 again. I am tired of him being "The guy" and only getting 20 goals. We need a new "The Guy" and then Franzen can maybe ease his own mind a bit.

Oh! I see! Ok at the time I guess it was underpayment, but today, no way. I would be fine with the Smith, Helm and this years 1st for Kesler...but then again, gambling with the 1st I guess, may be another diamond...its a gamble for sure! How about we throw Franzen in there instead of the 1st? We got to figure out what to do with Almqvist. Maybe a draft pick if not package....also we have Ferraro and Callahan to deal with. So many out of exemptions, Sheahan will be here. Should we deal AA and one of the FWDS for draft picks and just pick up a UFA? There is a log jam in the bottom 6 again and the two yoots will make it even more crowded...I don't like any of our UFA's except Legwand, but I don't think he will come here again if he will delegated to the 4th line. We have too many bottom 6 guys already, Helm, Andersson, Glendening, Miller and Abby. That doesn't include the solid 3rd line of Jurco - Sheahan - Tatar.... So we have 5 guys to split time on the 4th...you cant sit Helm and Babcock won't sit Glendening or Abby too much, so does that mean Miller and Andy are the odd guys to sit most the season? Now we really need to do something with Ferraro and Callahan... Bottom line is something has to give...if we are to not lose our kids and want to get better, trades need to happen. Without making a blockbuster, guys that I think need a change of scenery are: Lashoff, Kindl, Andersson, Almqvist obviously wants the NHL or Sweden, so he needs to be traded, Ferraro and Callahan are toughies. Do we trade them for peanuts, lose them for nothing or keep them in Detroit? I still say we need a Derek Morris/Willie Mitchell type defenseman for a couple of seasons to bridge the gap between our guys and Sproul/Ouellet/Marchenko being fulltimers here. I figure Mitchell will most likely want to re-up with LA, but LA may be looking to go in a different direction. Morris needs out of Phoenix IMO, but I though the same thing of Doan and he decided to keep the faith there...

Marleau at $6.6M? No thank you....NOT EVER! If he were a UFA I could see Holland targeting him, but not a trade and not for that salary... I happen to think that trade deal for Edler was OVERPAYMENT. Nyquist, Smith and Mantha? No way, and if that was an actual offer from Holland, no wonder that GM got fired...Holland should be fired by offering that! I know it takes something to get something, but that was/is too much.

He doesn't want to stay in the system? Even if it means being GRR!?!? How dare he thumb a nose to the Wings! Same things were being said by Jarnkrok. You don't tell them what is gonna happen...or you find yourself out. See ya! Enjoy your career on the Island!

Now is the time to trade him...include his rights in a package on draft day.

I am still loving the Kesler scenario. I am pretty sure Holland really wanted him at the deadline, but the price was too high then. We all know that Holland eventually gets his target, well usually. I really don't think we'd miss Smith or Helm if we got Kesler. We most definitely won't miss that 1st round pick, especially if Vancouver sends us back their 2nd. to VAN: Brenden Smith, Darren Helm, GRR prospect (no exemptions left,) 1st round draft pick to DET: Ryan Kesler, 2nd round pick Dump Kindl and possibly Lashoff as well. my perfect scenario gets us Kesler, Edler and Booth and we get rid of Andersson, Franzen, Smith, Helm, Almqvist...but that is just me, I am not saying that will be a trade package, only suggesting who I'd like and who I wouldn't mind going if there were a blockbuster between us and VAN... BTW, we haven't heard the name Hemsky around these parts in a few...right handed forward...Holland loves him...he could be a pickup we weren't expecting...or were we?

We are also one the only two teams to even make a Cup appearance back to back...us and Pit in the same years. Nobody has made back to back finals since 08-09...

this thread is turning into a 'what our team needs' thread...to stick to the original topic, if we are talking the best RH dman the Wings have had in the last 20 years, hands down, bar none, it was and is still Vladdy. To this day they have never been able to replace him or find a combination of two players to equal him.

but...but...we're blackhawks fans and we're entitled...what gives? I sure can't wait for Chicago to disappear of the face of the NHL earth again. Boston, Puttsburgh, Chicago....you can't touch this!

...but, but we have Franzen for that!

Oates may have a brief connection here, but he was traded for dirt and run out if town because he was bitching about icetime. He felt that he was getting screwed because he was getting less time than Yzerman...not exactly the best relationship.

we need to make the deal for Kesler, sign Morris and Mitchell to 2 year deals....bingo, instantly better up front and on D...

krsmith17.....do I really need to name them? I answered 30 teams have 6 guys that are better....so 30 teams means ALL....hell I will even say 31 teams and add in there Grand Rapids.

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Franzen has not been a top 6 forward since 2009. Maybe on this team he ranks as a top 6 guy (until this season when the kids take over,) but around the league he is not. I am not blindfully hateful, just not wearing rose glasses. he was chosen to be "The Man" over Hossa, and at first I was on board (mad we lost Hossa, but still on board.) He quickly turned into a pud after his "serious contract" and hasn't gotten anywhere near the power forward he was in 08-09. Holland gambled on him and he turned to mush. 1000% positive if Holland had an inkling of what Franzen would turn into, he would have signed Hossa.

Rival, I was just going to ask if I am the only one who would love to see Larionov come here.... What makes him unavailable? His agent job? Iggy knows hockey...he would 1,000,000 X better as a coach in the NHL. Not that he is a bad agent, but I think he just may ponder a spot on the bench grooming young talent instead of taking there money...besides agents are DB's.

putting my hatred for Franzen aside, same could be said of him that you just said of Kindl. He needs a change of scenery and I do think he can become a 30 goal scorer again. I think he has also grown stale in this system. That is why I always do my fantasy trade scenario with Vancouver. I think playing with the Sedins could help him.

I am absolutely for getting rid of Kindl, no matter if we sign a vet or not...I just think that finally he has peaked about as high as a mountain in Florida. He fooled us all the shortened season.

Kip, I can dig it! I would make those trades and of course my vet D-Man would be Derek Morris. I think though that Mrazek will spend one more season in GR, so we'd have to find a #2 guy (who would stay healthier than Monster.) I would try Nabokov...why not. I am not so sure Columbus would take Franzine from us, unless we assumed some of that contract, but I do like the idea of trading him..... no really?