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cannot re-sign Quincey. Period. He already makes $3.75m, what are you going to do, pay him more than Kronwall? I don't care what the going rate is, if I am going over $4m, I am getting a better player than Kyle Quincey....

ya!!!

love the 3 on 3, but you need 2 fwds out there. If that is another fwd instead of Smith, game is over.

and there is the letdown....cue the price is right horn.

One thing is for sure, Tatar is untouchable for trades. Matter of fact, the 4 kids that are here...untouchable.

Bert sucks...lets put him in as an experiment against a division rival who we are chasing... Do we really need to start out on this foot Babs? How quickly you turn back into a very stupid coach...

Trade for Boyes, Morris and/or Mitchell....please. Not even sure if Morris or MItchell are available, but I would love those two guys on our D... Boyes helps with PP and Shootout... Small veteran moves that wouldn't cost too much. A sensible hockey deal... re-sign all three over the summer to help usher in the kids...

MIller? You know my wishes! "Suggest" to Jimmy that he waive his NTC, trade him to Edmonton for their #1 pick....acquire Ryan Miller.

Igor Radulov? J/K... Avs are doing so good, why would you want to put cancer in your lockeroom? speaking of Avs, if we could swing it come July, Stastny would love wonderful in Red and White...

I hope not. Edler is good, but it would cost us a lot in assets... I do not want to give away any of our kids that are already up. The only prospects I am comfortable with giving away are Almqvist and Ferraro. And I am on the fence with Ferraro, because I would like to see him prosper or fail here, instead of prosper somewhere else... The good about Edler is, he is signed for a few more years and with the cap going up, we could still get a solid #3-#6 D man and try to address our #1 line scorer. If we dumped Q and K and acquired Edler, our D is much better, so I would be good with that. Would still love to have a guy like Morris on the second pairing...even with Edler. Kronwall - Edler Ericsson - Morris Dekeyser - Smith (unless he is dealt for Edler) Lashoff/Marchenko I could be happy with that. Edler is not a rental and he is a veteran of sorts, its a hockey move, and he is Swedish...has Holland written all over it!

Maybe he was "asked" to play through the injury for team Russia. A very special "request" from Putin... Anyhow, now that we know Z is out for the rest of the regular season, does that qualify him for LTIR and some much needed cap relief? Especially if Weiss returns soon?

a hockey deal for a veteran defenseman sounds a lot like Mitchell and Morris could fit that bill... I can hope something like that happens... I like what Holland says about the team. It's been pretty much my view as well. O is good, need help on D. Of course I am not the biggest Howard fan, but if he can turn it around and do it soon...hey maybe we get to see that USA helmet that he had made for the Olympics, because like I said in the thread, not going to see it in the press box... Trade Q and K and Almqvist.

I do like the idea of Ott, but is he a center? I think with the four centers we have and with Weiss coming back soon, we are pretty stacked at center. Even with sending Glendening back down, we still have Dats, Helm, Sheahan, Weiss and Andersson... Not saying Ott is beyond playing on the wing, but I am like you, the D is of utmost importance. I only like Ott if we can re-sign him and utilize his abilities for a few years, not just a month... Trade: Quincey, Kindl, Almqvist, Andersson and draft picks to get the things we need for the playoff run. If we shore up the D this week, then we can maybe focus on a #1 scorer in July. I posted in the other thread my interest in Derek Morris and Willie Mitchell AND the prospects of keeping them around for two more years... Those two could (on the cheap) solidify our D and then we could go after a big gun over the summer...

It's funny, we haven't heard too much about the Yandle rumors lately! Honestly though, I think Kenny will go for that depth trade that only cost a pick. I think if they are keeping Smith (although I heard through a grapevine that they are NOT happy with him and he is on the block (along with Kindl)) but if they are keeping Smith, and cannot afford that top pairing guy, then we NEED that depth guy or two. Yandle is their top scoring D-man and would most definitely cost us more than we want to pay. Morris on the other hand is more of a shutdown defenseman with a bit of snarl to him. He is a pending UFA, but at 35 he could be re-signed at a modest raise from his $2.5M for a couple of season's to help usher in the young guys. Plus I am sure he could be had for a draft pick, or if they wanted to offer up Almqvist straight up. Oh, and Morris is right-handed, which is a bonus... My other depth guy is Willie Mitchell. He is 36 and makes $3.5M, but if you are dumping K and Q or Smitty then you are opening up enough cap space right there. Mitchell though not going to get you many points, he does average 21 minutes a game and is a huge shutdown guy with even more snarl. At 21 mins a game, he seems to be pretty important to the Kings, it may take a bit more to get him, but it wouldn't be Hollands first rodeo with LA, he was able to snaggle Schneider and Stuart off of them fairly cheap...a couple of players and draft picks amongst the two trades. I think this defense is tons better with Mitchell and Morris on it than Q and K. Quincey had some success in LA and maybe he could be part of a deal getting Mitchell. Quincey and a pick should be enough IMO. Throw Kindl at Arizona and maybe Almqvist or just Almqvist and dump K for a pick to replace the one you gave LA. Kronner - Morris Big E - Mitchell Diesel - Smitty Laser I like it and it doesn't cost you too many assets. Plus they are both good enough to maybe re-sign for another season or two to help the kids grow even more... Almqvist is gone with the trade, Sproul, Marchenko, Ouellet, Backman...they all have exemptions still and would not have to pass waivers. So for the rest of this season and the next two years lets say, your D remains the same and intact all while the kids mature even more in GR seeing some spot action in Detroit for injuries and after Morris and Mitchell depart, the kids should be ready to take over... in a perfect world...

I still am not counting out a depth move for someone like Mitchell or Morris... both of which are better than Q or K...

#eighteentwelve? #stillridingourcoattails #hidingbehindourdefense ...back on current subject. MSL wouldn't be the first to ask for a trade after being slighted by a GM. I don't put it past Yzerman to do something like that either, he is not the little angel everyone thinks. But, if Yzerman were to trade him, I think the worst place to go would be Winnipeg or the Isle.

Next season's need is most definitely defense. This D needs to be re-tooled and not include the likes of Q or K or, and I hate to say it, Smith. Not unless they hang on to Smith and he proves next season that he can make the jump to a full time reliable guy. I think you look at the D and keep Kronner, E and Diesel as your core, everyone else is up in the air. Laser makes a good #7 relief guy, but again, hasn't grabbed that #6 spot by the horns and probably won't. So outside of those 3 keepers, the other 4 are very expendable and that is the reason we are doing not so good this season. We need a top line guy and 2-3 solid #3-#6 guys. I fully believe that our offense will be fine, maybe find a specialist out there to help the PP and/or Shoot Outs (Boyes) that won't cost too much. But I love our kids and Mantha is just tearing up the Q. He may not step in next season, but there is quiet the possibility... So the way I see it is: Kronwall - Top Line Guy Ericsson - Solid #4 Dekeyser - Solid #5 (Lashoff/Marchenko) ...I know Almqvist is out of options, but I do not see him on this team and would be better served in a package or just get a pick for him.

Ok, in todays episode of What we need, the guy is MacDonald. That's cool, so lets look at this. Let's say Detroit acquires MacDonald, Moulson and Visnovsky....what do you think goes back in return? Never mind, for some reason I thought Moulson was still with the Isles....please return to your regularly scheduled program...

one would assume if Nick was planning an UN-retirement, he would have maybe played for Sweden in the Olympics?

Zombo, I do agree with you on that! Especially in the cap era, picks are far more valuable!

Kronwall - Ericsson Dekeyser - Morris Mitchell - Smith I do like....

all I know is the deadline is March 5. I agree with you guys about maybe a minor depth trade on D and MAYBE a cheaper rental to try and make up for Z's point production as best as we can. Which is why earlier in the week I mentioned Jagr. By all means I am not saying go out and get him, he is the answer, but he could be the kind of minor deal to shore up the first line while Z is gone, and his cap hit is not that bad. It also would probably cost us very little... ...we can all agree that our D needs an upgrade over Q and K. Trading them for picks and then maybe getting a mid-tier defender that is an upgrade to those two...maybe a pending UFA vet that is looking for a place to finish his career. IIRC wasn't Holland GM when we acquired Murphy? Looking back, March 18, 1997 for future considerations...I think Holland was already promoted to GM by then, maybe not. Maybe acquire someone of that stature for the depth and solidify the backend for a nice push for the playoffs.. Players like Murphy that could be had for futures or lower end picks: Salo, Timonen, Zidlicky, Mitchell, Robidas, Derek Morris to name a few that would be definite upgrades over Q or K and if they returned for another season help bridge the gap while our kids merge in next season... ...on my team I would take Derek Morris and Wille Mitchell in place of Q and K today...get it done! Also it's almost a wash on salary...

Let us not forget Holland DID acquire Dominik Hasek via trade. to BUF: Vyacheslav Kozlov, 2002 1st round pick. to DET: Dominik Hasek, 2002 Stanley Cup ...Holland had some balls back then (especially since it meant he had to waive fan favorite Chris Osgood) so maybe he can find them again and make that deal for a top line defender... I sure wish Nashville wanted to get rid of Weber's contract...

I have come to the conclusion myself that IF we made a big deal, it should be for a D man first and foremost... I should say that I have succeeded that fact. That being said, I still think we could trade for someone like Brad Boyes, who could help the powerplay and in the shootouts. I really don't think he would cost too much in trade... If we grab a top 3 defenseman, it will definitely cost us at least one of Q or K or Smith along with a defensive prospect and our #1 draft pick. I don't want to give up on Smitty, but if it means getting that defenseman we need, then so be it. We won't get too much for Q alone (yes, I know that we won't get Morrow) but if we traded Q, Smith, Almqvist and our #1? What kind of return would that get us? Or maybe just keep Q until UFA and trade Smith, Almqvist, #1 and a forward prospect...I know Andersson isn't worth much either, but what kind of realistic package do you see that would get us a top 3 guy? (for fun, you cannot include Nyquist, Jurco, Tatar or Sheahan...) s*** just got hard, eh? also, IMO, this year isn't about winning a Cup, it's about making the dance and re-tooling over the summer with our kids and a UFA piece or two...or if we acquired someone at the deadline...

The Silver means as much to the Swedes as winning the Bronze meant to the USA... after the two quick goals 11 seconds apart, the USA just mailed in the rest of the game...really, who cares about a Bronze? We went there to win the Gold and anything else was meaningless... I'd rather have a pin that says "I Participated at Sochi" than take home a Bronze medal in Hockey...