LeftWinger

Booth is coming to Detroit...source: ME!

what are you doing with Ferraro and Almqvist?

Vanek wants a new home...which means he doesn't want to play on the Island...if he got traded to Detroit, that would be a new home and he would probably negotiate, especially if he enjoys playing with the Twins...it would be no different than him negotiating with Holland come July...

Tomas Vanek and Zach Bogosian would be gifts from the Hockey. Gods... Too bad the price would be steep...

Kenny, lets make a deal...

no Sammy, no Bert, No Cleary....prayers have been answered!

Too much parity in the league to have another Dead Wing era...of course tell that to an Oiler fan...

Franzen in a head case and damaged goods...add that to his dumb ass contract length and nobody would take him from us. We are stuck with him until he retires...Can only hope that he takes LTIR and gets back 100% or retires over the summer if he cannot get his head straight. I would be more apt to trade Nike over Tats. Tats would probably garner more in return...but given the choice, I think we would miss Tats more than Nike...

IMO, unless something falls into Holland's lap (ie Hossa 2008) he should just go with the kids. But unfortunately it's not going to improve the team that way. Franzen is a head case and unless he is 100% by time the buyout expires, he needs to get bought out, then you have to replace him. They absolutely, positutely NEED a #1 defenseman and a different back up goalie. They need a sniper, but that just may come via the farm... I am actually OK with going kids up front, but the D needs something and something quick! I would LOVE to have a UFA or trade deadline scorer. Unfortunately, "getting Pav, Z and Weiss back will be our trade deadline blah blah blah..." I still say we target Ladd and Bogosian ASAP. I would trade Smith before I trade Ouellet or Sproul. That being said, I would like to keep all of them if at all possible, but in this world, it takes something to get something and if they are looking at someone like Bogosian or Yandle or Edler, it is most definitely going to take something. The trade-able D-men for me are in this order: Quincey, Kindl, Almqvist, Lashoff, Smith....if we have to dig deeper than that, I am getting a little cold in the toes....

I truly believe nothing will happen because all teams will try to rape the Wings, business as usual. Very little will happen this UFA because Holland will not outbid another team for a player he NEEDS. So with that, I can only hope that Cleary is NOT re-signed, Bertuzzi is NOT re-signed and Quincey is NOT re-signed. I hope Alfie retires and then we just go in house with all the kids and start building the next Dynasty. I just hope one of these kids can be that sniper that Datsyuk yearns for, because he did sign to play 3 more years in hopes to win another Championship and I would hate to waste those years, because he probably will retire after...

Detroit would be a better team with Datsyuk and Stamkos than Zetterberg and Stamkos. Although both teams would be VERY good with either of those combos. Zetterberg NOR Datsyuk are being traded so this is all for fun, but what will be fun is if/when Holland gets that type of scorer to play on the same lilne with BOTH Zetterberg and Datsyuk...and that is a major missing piece that Holland needs to address this summer... Moving to the D. Some folks here say that the Wings aren't ONE superstar defenseman away from the Stanley Cup, but if you look at our Stanley Cup winning teams, each and every one of those teams had ONE superstar defenseman and 5-6 solid others. (outside of 1997 when Vladdy was here and Lids was just becoming a superstar) 1997 - Lidstrom, Konstantinov, Fetisov, Murphy, Ward, Pushor, Rouse (Dandenault was still a RW) 1998 - Lidstrom, Murphy, Fetisov, Rouse, Mironov, Eriksson, Macoun (Dandenault was still a RW) 2002 - Lidstrom, Dandenault, Chelios, Duchesne, Fischer, Olausson (Krupp, Slegr) 2008 - Lidstrom, Chelios, Kronwall, Lebda, Rafalski, Stuart, Lilja The common here is ONE superstar and a group of level B solid defenders. Right now we have a whole D corps of level B-C defenders Kronwall - Ericsson - Dekeyser - Smith those four will be your solid group of level B defenders, we NEED that superstar to anchor this team for the next 6-8 years+. SUPERSTAR - Kronwall Ericsson - Dekeyser Smith - B defender C Defender That's the key on D.

...throw in the 1st round pick and Winnipeg makes that trade. If Q wasn't pending UFA you could throw him in. But WPG would want that guarantee that he would stay there. Besdies of our 7 NHL defensemen there are only two, maybe three that are not tradable: Dekeyser, Kronwall and Ericsson (unless were are talk Weber, then Big E would be gone.)

You don't trade Datsyuk. Around the league he is the PLAYERS choice for best player in the league. If ANYONE is going to want to come here and play, it's to be able to play with Datsyuk, not Zetterberg. I'm sorry, Zetterberg is a star, but he is an average star, there are a bunch of players in the NHL that I would rather have on this team than Zetterberg. Pav, is a Superstar, there is nobody in this league that is a better complete NHL superstar, and nobody you could offer me that I would trade him for... I am not saying trade Zetterberg either, but if it came down to another "choice," Zetterberg would be the one to go everyday of the week.

Dickie, I usually love all the things you say and agree with 99% of it. I loved your last post, I always like reading informed user's thougts, BUT I have to stop you in your tracks when it comes to Hossa v. Franzen... If ANYONE hates "The Choice" more than anyone else, it's me. With that, if anyone knows all the comparables at least as good as anyone else, again, it's me. You say that Hossa's regular season stats are better than Franzen's, but Franzen's playoff stats are FAR better than Hossa's, let me break it down for you: Hossa - Regular Season: 293gms - 275G - 143A - 418pts. 1.42 PPG Franzen - Reg. Season: 252gms - 90g - 96a - 186pts. .73 PPG Regular season, you are spot on, but maybe you should have used the words FAR better when it comes to Hossa in that regard. Hossa - Playoffs: 54gms - 12g - 26a - 38pts. .70PPG Franzen - Playoffs: 39gms - 13g - 15a - 28pts. .71PPG although Franzen is .01ppg more than Hossa has been, I would not call that FAR better playoff scoring, and would go as far as not even calling it better period. Especially when you factor in that Franzen was chosen over Hossa because he was supposed to be better in the long run...add to that Franzen has 4 PP goals in the playoff to Hossa's 6, in that time span along with 2 GW goals for Franzen to Hossa's 4. Hossa is there more when you need him. This was a bad, BAD choice to keep Franzen over Hossa, but it is done and there is nothing that can be done to change it. Holland just needs to address it NOW, today and make right what he has wronged since July 2009...

pa.the.tic.

wings need a #1 AND a #2 defender...bottom line. Until Kenny gets it done, the Wings are done...

ok, two things we are learning....kronwall is not a #1 and Ericsson is not a #2. not landing Suter hurts more and more each game...

PP....lets try Cleary out

open net Q.....

jeez Cleary sucks

kronwall and E again....

WTF KRONWALL!!!

Wings win 4-2 and then promptly trade Dan Cleary to them before the bus leaves for a 7th round pick.

Franzen needs to kill his wife and kid and then himself?

Trade Q for Iginla today...