LeftWinger

I am going to be one of the first to have it written down. This summer, Ken Holland will pursue and most likely attain the services of Shea Weber. Nashville didn't like that contract to begin with and they are really riding the bottom of the NHL and will look for a new direction. Babcock will spend the Olympics schmoozing Weber and talking up the direction of the Red Wings, and when the Wings make the playoffs for the 23rd straight season this will solidify Weber's decision to want to come to Detroit. The price will be hefty, but it will involve our 1st round pick this season to give Nashville TWO picks in the top 17. It may include some guys that we do not want to lose, but for Weber, the price is worth it...

when it comes to priority, representing your country is way above the NHL when it comes to players, ESPECIALLY Europeans. I have NO doubt that Pav and Hank are "resting" for the Olympics or if you want, making sure they do get re-injured before they represent their countries. This is not a knock of them, it's just fact. Is it wrong? From a fan's POV yes, a fan of the NHL that is. Espcially in Russia and Sweden, hockey there is as important as living, and with the Olympics in Russia this year, Pavel Datsyuk would become an even bigger National Hero if they won the Gold. He is already regarded as the top Olympian in that country...there is no way they would risk re-injuring any part of their body, upper or lower, and miss out on the Olympics.

We all know who SHOULD be sent packing, but in realty the three that will most likely be sent to GR are Sheahan, Jurco and Glendening. Tatar is not exempt from waivers and would absolutely get snatched up... Although, Holland surprised to bajeevies out of me by waiving Sammy, so waiving Bert and Cleary is not out of the question. I do think, since Philly wanted Cleary for $3M over the summer, they would most certainly give us a conditional pick for him at his current salary. Although Cleary does have a NTC, he showed some interest in playing in Philly, so he may waive it to go there. If he just got sent through waivers, he probably would rather play for a playoff chance than get claimed by Buffalo or Edmonton... Speaking of waivers and stuff, notice that all the UFA's that Holland signed two summers ago are gone, so to speak. Tootoo waived, Sammy waived, Cola bought out. He atoned for those mistakes (although I do think Tootoo should be here, its just Babcock dumb ass that won't play him) so maybe he will atone for the mistake of re-signing Cleary and Bertuzzi. A (Red Wings) Nation holds its breath!

if Cleary is in another game, fire Babcock... They lose because once they get momentum and excitement they send Cleary out to slow it all down. Come on groin pull!

getting sick of these china doll Swedes...its ridiculous.

gotta love Babcock...where was Z tonight?

waive Cleary tonight....he sucks so bad he makes the ice too soft for others to skate on...

this team with Cleary=failure....

keep playing the old pukes...

one down, two to go...

Callahan will get his cup of coffee next season one way or another. He is out of exemptions so he will either be on our club, traded to another NHL team or claimed off waivers. I prefer he be a Red Wing.

Quincey for Iginla... Kindl, Almqvist, Ferraro, 2nd for Brad Boyes and Kulikov, Jovo

I think we are the Kings of the 1 point games this season....

this just goes to show we need an impact goalie...elite. Monster NOR Howard are it. Howard is a great goalie, but not elite and not great enough to steal games. Too bad the asking price for Miller is too high...rumored 2 1st's a 2nd and an elite prospect...

Hmmmm, yet Cleary and Bertuzzi will still get icetime over these guys when health returns... I hope that Babcock and Holland are getting their eyes awoken right now. There is no time like the present to go with the kids....

just a random thought, I will never quite look at Crèam of Tatar in the same way ever again...

...not to burst your bubble, but even though we are loving how good Jurco, Sheahan and the likes of Eaves are playing, the sad reality is, when Wings get healthy, they will ALL be back in GR, even Eaves. Can't waive Bert or Sammy or Cleary now can we...

...and just as I rant, they tie it up, but seriously, I think we are all tired of this crap and are all in pain watching the Winged wheel play in the basement...

I am really heartbroken that my once powerful Red Wings have fallen this far from grace because of Babcock and Holland. Hockey Zues, please, I beggeth of you, do not let this team become the scourge of the NHL again... It's time now to shake this team at its core! If this same team steps on the ice next week, it's over. Heaven forbid this same team skates together after the trade deadline. If nothing is done to reclaim our dominant stronghold over the NHL, both Holland AND Babcock must be fired. Waive Cleary and Bertuzzi today, don't even wait 0:001 after the final buzzer sounds. Trade Q, trade K, trade prospects, I am even getting on board with trading Nyquist and Patterson to get this ship back on course. I have never been so mad than I am today. Back in 1999 the Wings gave Petr Klima a contract so he could play for the Wings again and retire a Red Wing. It's time they do the same for Fedorov, he is 100X better than half the crap on the ice right now...

every time Hossa scores on us, Ken Holland looks down the press box row and gives Franzen the stink eye...yes the press box. Damaged goods. I still maintain that re-signing Franzen and dinking around with Hudler, then letting Hossa walk instead was the beginning of the downfall of the current Red Wings... damn, can Chicago PLEASE use a buyout on Hossa this summer....PLEASE!

I am neither here nor there on this trade, but what irks me is, once again, other teams not named Detroit are making deals to try to better their situation. Sometimes the whole 'home grown' excuses to keep a player gets on my nerves...in hindsight you see how that worked out with Franzen over Hossa.

I made my move last June...from Detroit to Hart... anyway, I still maintain that the ONLY team that would have ANY interest in Franzen would be Vancouver. The contract albatross would have to be partly footed by Detroit though. If he cannot get healthy enough to play, then he needs to retire or get bought out. Quincey, Kindl and Almqvist are defensemen that all could and possibly will be moved if the right deal came along. Other prospects that I would entertain moving would be Ferraro, Pulkkinen, Aubry, Coetzee, Parkes, Fournier and Nestrasil. The two of those guys I would be reluctant to move is Ferraro and Pulkkinen, but in order to get something you need to give up something. I could only imagine what a package of Franzen, Almqvist and our 1st round pick would garner us in return from Vancouver. I know Holland has always been interested in Edler, but he has a pretty expensive contract considering and if the Wings had to retain some of Franzen's salary it would pretty tough to make the deal this season. Some players I would be interested in: VAN: Burrows, Booth, Edler. FLA: Boyes, Kulikov, Jovo. CGY: Stepniak, Cammalleri. EDM: Smyth, Hall, Yakupov BUF: Moulson, Ott, Erhoff, Myers, Ryan Miller WPG: Wheeler, Ladd, Bogo, Byfuglien, Seto CAR: Malhotra, Lyles NYI: Vanek, Visnovsky (speaking of NYI, they are still paying Alexi Yashin a salary...sheesh) ...those are just from some of the teams that are further out of the playoffs than us(minus VAN.) OF course there would be players I would take from other teams (Weber, B. Richards, Girardi, Stastny, Yandle) but I don't think those guys will actually get moved before summer, or I should say, I would be surprised if they are, because ANYTHING is possible...

I didn't want to make a thread for this, these guys are both 2013 draft picks and are both big defensemen. I was looking for some info on Mitch Wheaton and stumbled across this: ....it was also mentioned above that Tvrdon is now a Kelowna teammate of Wheaton's. McNulty currently has 27 points in 44 games for the Prince George Cougars.

we don't need a top 5 pick. the return in trade would pay instant dividends. IMO.

With Howard going down, Monster with injuries issues, we may see a combo of Mrazek and Coreau sooner that we think. Not saying it will affect us too much (since we aren't playing good anyhow) but it could drop us further out of the playoff giving us a higher draft pick, possibly a top 5. That pick could and probably would get us an impact player in return if traded in a package. Nyquist, Almqvist, Kindl and a Top 5 1st rounder would garner a pretty nice return! With the amount of talent in the pipeline, unless there is a slam dunk kid in the top 5-10, it probably makes more sense to trade the pick...