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of course, Kyle Quincey on the ice for a goal against...

it's encouraging to see that Cleary has the least amount of icetime (less than 5:00 ttl) and tht Danny Diesel has the most!

Fasching with the goal! 3-0!

Mantha's goals: http://t.co/zjvtZYOFb2 http://t.co/EXQm3uuJ8w http://t.co/FqoQaHAatw via @Weallbleedredd #RedWings

...neither can Cleary or Sammy.

I think at best, IF Feds was looking for a return to the NHL to see what he can do, he would sign for a year to see how it goes, then go from there a year at a time. I know he is 44, but remember Fedorov is/was a work of art when it comes to being in shape. His workout rivaled Chris Chelios at the time. When Cheli was 44 and 45, he was still pretty effective for us. Sure it is a long shot that Feds returns here, and I am mostly just talking about it because I SO want him to retire a Red Wing. But honestly, if Selanne can do it, so could Feds. He may not be on the top line, but heck, could he really be as bad as Weiss has been this year? Albeit Weiss had a groin issue that was supposedly hindering him. If Holland isn't going to make splash in the market until the 2015 off season, then heck, give it a go. He gave Modo a closing ceremony to play for his hometown, he kept Cheli around until he was 48ish and even Alfie at 41 is only 2 points out of having the team lead in points. Long shot, yes...pipe dream, yes...but damn I hope it happens...it needs to happen.

all time misfit....Ken Holland! With all those lovely quotes he uses every draft, July 1st, throughout the season and trade deadline! He builds you up just to knock you down, you play the fool while he plays the clown! In the end, he kicked the tires and made some offers, but he likes our team!

...no, the wrong guys are getting hurt...if he were an actual genius, Cleary, Bertuzzi, Samuelsson, Quincey & Kindl would be the LTIR cap relief and we'd have a great team then to go along with the cap relief...

...so, E is out. Fine. I still sit Q & K. I bring up all of Ouellet, Marchenko and Almquist. Send a f'ing message to these two 1st round picks that 'know the system.'

...according to IIHF, Sergei Fedorov is staging a comeback with CSKA. Put that together with him playing in the alumni game, I predict a return the Red Wings to officially bury the hatchet amongst all parties concerned. It will allow him to retire as a Red Wing, get into the HOF and get #91 up where it belongs with #19 & #5. Feds will be Hollands signing in the off season since he said he won't make any huge splashes until the TV deal. He will at least be better than Bert, Cleary and Sammy. https://twitter.com/IIHFHockey/status/415412161993646080

Yes they can bring up Ouellet if needed, they have $7M in cap space as of today with all the LTIR. Bring Tootoo back up as well. I would sit BOTH Q and K and bring up Ouellet and one of Sproul/Marchenko/Almquist... Babcock, it's time to sit Cleary. Damn, at least sit one of Cleary or Bertuzzi....Tootoo deserves to be in this lineup.

It's not necessarily about getting the BEST guy, it's about the best FIT. This is why although I am pissed at this team by having Cleary, Sammy, Bert and Quincey (more and more Kindl as well) on it, but I understand the thinking that these guys have been around and may be a good fit here. I also think more and more that these guys are showing that they aren't the best fit. I like the talk about Girardi, he is fairly cheap, but there are others out there that could maybe come in and solidify the back end very well and I wouldn't mind taking a 1-2 year gamble on to see if they indeed fit better than what we have. In no particular order: Dion Phaneuf, Brooks Orpik, Willie Mitchell, Dan Girardi, Matt Niskanen, Matt Hunwick and knowing their love affair with Swede's, Douglas Murray. I know a couple of those guys are older, but given what we have this season any combo of two of those guys are better than Q and Kindl... So let's just for conversation purposes, what looks better? Kronwall - Ericsson Dekeyser - Smith Quincey - Kindl Lashoff/Ouellet - OR - Phaneuf - Kronwall Dekeyser - Ericsson Orpik - Smith Lashoff/Ouellet again, you can replace Orpik and Phaneuf with Hunwick/Girardi or Niskanen/Mitchell or Phaneuf/Murray. Any combo HAS to be much better than the bitter disappointments Quincey and Kindl have turned in to... Up front, its obvious that Cleary, Bertuzzi, Sammy ALL must go. With the influx of kids that obviously belong here, I still would like to see a big star type player be signed to play along side Datsyuk and Zetterberg. With the cap going up, I would love to see any of the top UFA's pursued, including Heatley, Vanek, Gaborik and Jumbo Joe, also Paul Stastny. You are going to have to break out the big bucks to outbid other teams, but they would be worth it. And these guys are just UFA signing's, no telling what could be done via the trade. I am not sure how happy the Rags are with Nash and not even sure if Holland is still wanting him, but he would love awesome on Datsyuk's line, as would Brad Richards, but he is leading the Rags in scoring right now... Bottom line is: Cleary, Bertuzzi, Samuelsson, Quincey, Kindl must NOT be on this team next season. To a lessor extent, I would be indifferent if Eaves, Alfredsson and Gustavsson were re-signed or let go.

ok, how about a deal for Girardi and Brad Richards?

I would rather it be Ouellet making rookie mistakes and learning, than Quincey doing it. Stevie Y and the Avs ripped Holland on thus deal. Would've rather just had Downie. Of course Babcock wouldn't play someone like that...ie Tootoo.

Quincey -3....hot garbage! Waive him tonight!

#quinceymustgo

welcome back Diesel!

I am ready for some Mantha next season...seriously.

if not for Cleary and Sammy, Eaves and Tootoo would be here permanently. Sadly, when the injuries subside, they will be the ones to be sent back down...even though we are a better team with them. Holland knows it, Babcock knows it, but their hands are tied with the old losers...

We all know which players need to be gone...it just sucks that when our hurt are mended, the same guys will be going back to GR because there will be no cap room again and Lord knows that Bert, Sammy, Cleary and Q just have to be on this team the rest of the season... Glad Tootoo is back up, he deserves to be here. Wonder what would have happened had Tootoo been player when Datsyuk got his elbow....hmmmm.... I really enjoy watching the kids play, unfortunate that they will have to go back. If Holland could somehow grow a set and just do whatever it takes to get rid of the dead weight. I know Sammy would have to give a list a teams he won't go to, but just tell him, submit the teams because you are being traded or being sent to the minors to rot. Sure the cap relief would be small, but I'd much rather have Tootoo or Eaves here than Sammy. Same goes with Cleary, just waive him right now, I don't care if he plays in GR or not, the roster spot is more valuable! I would much rather have Tootoo, Eaves Nyquist, Tatar and Ouellet in the lineup over Bertuzzi, Sammy, Cleary or Quincey. I hope an "injury" per say comes up for some LTIR relief from Sammy AND Cleary! That way Tootoo can stay.

glad he is back! In for Sammy...we need Cleary to sit too!

I haven't liked Kindl for a long time. I hated it when he was drafted as a matter of fact. I was encouraged by his progress last season but am not surprised by this seasons regress. He never really panned out and he is at best a #7 guy. He was re-signed for way too much money for his worth. I know Holland probably hoped that he would get even better after the contract, but this is another mistake by him. Kindl along with Q and Franzen are mistakes. I know Franzen is more than likely here to stay, but may as well get what you can now for Q and K. If at all possible, rid ourselves of Bert, Sammy and Cleary as well. Bring up kids that can be sent back down when all are healthy again. If I am gonna play like yesterday and be embarrassed, I'd rather have my kids learning the NHL, than losing with a bunch of overpaid floaters. .

So anyhow, I scan ahead on both FSD & FSD+ and cannot find ANY listings for the AHL game OR the Alumni Games...I have Charter Communications and have both channels...I found the College games, but cannot find the ones I REALLY want.... The only thing I find is on NHL Network on the 31st at the same times, but it says Alumni Game Philly vs. Rangers...ugh!

I am all for Huge D-men that RH....as long as they aren't a carbon copy of Ericsson... Thanks for the scoop on this guy though, its always fun to keep an eye on someone and see how they advance in the rankings!

Guarantee a lot of those alumni players are far better than Cleary, Sammy and Quincey...I'd take Feds and Lids over Cleary or Sammy and Quincey today!