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I can get on board with a Bert and Hronek to ARZ for Chychrun. But I'd like to see more involved. Maybe some picks exchanged or some depth prospects.

I honestly think Soderbom is going to turn out to be Franzen on steroids. I know I was never a huge Franzen fan, but when he was healthy and on his game, he was great for us. Look for the nets to be filled by this guy coming soon! I also see Hronek being dealt. Can't say why, but it just feels like it's going to happen. Along with Bertuzzi if he turns down TWO extension offers from Yzerman. Could be a very big summer of trades for us. Depending on the coaching staff next season though, The likes of Zadina and Hronek could reach their full potential.

I think Gagner's 28 points (so far) and cheap price tag would put him above trying to re-sign any of those guys you listed. Namestnikov may return, but he brings a different game than Gagner. I think Gagner is also a great mentor for the likes of Raymond, Berggren, etc... But then again, so was Bobby Ryan, and he got cut out of camp. Staal I could live with or without, but having a veteran mentor on D is even more important that up front. Dekeyser is not an option if you ask me, and Staal seems to like being here...but we are talking Yzerman, so who knows what will happen, I just don't see him moving ahead with Hronek as his most veteran D. I know we have $35M available, and either of those two would only be a 1 year deal, but looking at who's available via UFA, any upgrade may cost a pretty penny. Of course, with what we have now, we'll have to pay up on someone just to get to the cap floor. This year the floor was $60M, I am pretty sure it'll go up by $1M along with the cap, but right now we sit at $46M, so that is $15M-ish we are going to have to dole out just to be compliant. Maybe paying up for a 1 year rental like Subban or a Giordano might be in the cards as well as someone up front. None of our UFA's or RFA's will command that kind of money, even IF Zadina gets $2M-ish. So I guess if we HAVE to spend $15M, may as well overpay someone like Subban or a Malkin, for example, up front. I guess it's time to start looking at the UFA list and see who we can overpay to get their services for a year to hit that floor. We have to look for players who want a 1 year (2 at most) deal. No longer terms. We need to save our cap space for Larkin, Bert and then in a couple more season's Raymond and Seider. Those four are going to be our highest earners, so we have to be careful what we hand out. I say 1 year deals to vets that are (worth it) 30 and older and then attempt the ol' flip to a contender for a pick trick next TDL.

So let's start talking about our upcoming UFA/RFA players and who you think may stay or go... RFA: Zadina, Pearson, Stephens, Juolevi, Walman, Larsson, Brattstrom, Fulcher My opinion: Zadina - Yes (No brainer) Pearson - Yes (No waiver danger) Stephens - Yes (Very good bottom 6 C, belongs in the NHL) Juolevi - No (Too many D prospects; not enough games played to prove anything) Walman - Yes (Has proven he was an excellent acquisition) The three Goalies - Yes (No waiver danger) Unless Cossa is going to make the jump to GR, then one may go. Probably Larsson since he has been on loan to Sweden forever it seems... UFA: Staal, Dekeyser, Gagner, Griess, Pickard, Hellburg, Rowney, Hirose, Barber, Renouf, Murphy, Lashoff My opinion: Staal - Maybe? Has been consistent and is a great mentor. Dekeyser - Uhhhh, no. Gagner - Maybe, *see Staal Griess - No. I believe with Hellburg, this means Griess is moving on. Pickard - Yes, for depth in G for injuries (unless he is tired of being in the AHL and wants a new start somewhere) Hellburg - Yes, especially if Gronborg is coming Rowney - No, not enough NHL roster spots Hirose - Yes, for depth in GR (unless he wants to test the market and try to get a NHL job.) Barber - *see Hirose The remaining three D doesn't really matter, but if we have any more D coming to NA this season, there may have to be some cuts. Now trades could alter these of course, but I hope a new coaching staff can give life to some players who may be getting lost under Blashill... When it comes to trades, it's all up in the sir since Yzerman could trade anyone at anytime, for the right price. (No I am not talking about Raymond or Seider.) I know he said he'd like to get Larkin and Bertuzzi extended ASAP, Larkin should not be an issue, but something tells me that he'll give Bertuzzi and couple of tries, and if they get turned down, he'll be on the trading block. He would get a nice return. Other names that COULD be mentioned in trade talks (not necessarily going to happen) are Zadina, Hronek, Sundqvist, Suter, Smith and Rasmussen. I wouldn't mind seeing all of these guys stay, but they each have their own value in the NHL and wee know if Yzerman gets the right deal, he won't hesitate to pull the trigger. The Vrana deal is going to go down as the steal of the decade, even if it was One for One let alone the 1st (traded to Dallas to move up for Cossa) and 2nd we got along with him.

He is tied with Rasmussen in points and is less important and has less impact to the team. Ras is at $1.4M. Qualify him and if he asks for more than $1.5M go to arbitration. $2M is an insult to players making less that are better. If he gets $2M+, he better start filling the nets more than 10 times. I guess we'll see and we'll see if a new coach turns him around. I'm pulling for him since we passed on Hughes and Bouchard for him.

In no world has Zadina earned $2M or a 4 year contract. Holland is overpaying players for another team now. $1M X 2 at the very most! Only Larkin should get the max 8 yr deal and I can see that touching $10M maybe. A PPG is huge in today's league. Maybe he'll give a homer discount, but if not, he's worth the term and money.

@blueadams I really don't see Yzerman signing many bigger name UFA's this summer. I don't think team has yet to turn the corner to add a bigger name to carry them over the hump. But you just never know! I'd love to see us land Meyers, but that may be it in the UFA category, unless, like you said, he's lining up a trade or two. I know Zadina is still young, but you can't rule out him being dealt, also Hronek has value, both with his play, Right Handed, young, and cost controlled for a bit. Definitely going to be an interesting summer an camp next season. I would say dump Zadina, but with (probably) a new coaching staff coming in this summer, he may turn his game into what is was touted to be! But I do agree, we need to focus on upgrading that top 6 C position. I like Suter, but he seems more like a bottom 6. Him and Veleno can cover that for us.

So if Detroit lands Ben Meyers, and with Mitchell coming back, who gets waived? Dekeyser again is my guess.

This is a couple years ago but it's a good interview and has good information. https://megaphone.link/VMP3067199829 https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.habseyesontheprize.com/platform/amp/2020/7/3/21310422/coachs-challenge-podcast-what-makes-rikard-gronborg-an-nhl-coaching-target-europe-development Also of note, Lidstrom believes that he is the most ready to make the move to the NHL. NHL clause written in his contract. I trust the opinion of The Perfect Human.

Ha! I don't even wear glasses! But seriously, the woo is dumb.

You do realize how stupid it sounds right? If indeed you are a "wooo'er" do you like sounding moronic? It's not cool, and announcers poke fun at it. You are making a mockery of our fans to others around the league.

The PA Announcer should also be "moved on!" His music sucks, his voice sucks, his GD Stupid WOOOO!! is absolutely embarrassing because its makes the crowd keep doing it throughout the game and they sound like a bunch of ******* morons! It's not like it's bad enough to be an embarrassing team ATM with this coaching staff, but the fans there make it worse! #STOPTHEWOOO!

Rikard Grönborg.

Ban's and Name changes eliminates seniority...If you get fired or quit a job, then get re-hired, you don't get your original date of hire back, so..... Hi Junior!

Class of 2003 says hello!

Nah, he failed to Fill The Nets in GR as well. He's an Elite JR Player, in the Q none the less. Trade him at the draft.

Meh for the day. With the 1sts that were flying around, I thought we'd have more excitement in Detroit. I look at the Vlad trade as basically a loan to Nill for the playoff run. I believe he will be back, and that is why he only got us a 4th 2 years from now. He'll be back. The kid bleeds Red Wings.

I can see Bert staying, but I can see Hronek, Zadina and or Rasmussen being dealt. Or none of them! Then again, if the right deal presents itself, I can see Bert headed out. Yzerman won't make any dumb, wild moves, but he will make moves that make this team better.

Bertuzzi has told Yzerman that he is "open" to be moved. I am sure not because he hates it here or anything like that, BUT, the state of this team at the moment, I believe that Bertuzzi will be way past his prime before The Wings are serious perennial Cup contenders. He probably figures it's better to get traded now, to a contender and possibly win a few Cups, rather than work hard the next few seasons at building this team, then get traded at 30 years old. But, on the same hand he hasn't "asked" for a trade, nor has Yzerman said he is on the market. Yzerman said they were "open for business" and only a few are untouchable. I'm sure Bertuzzi would love to stay and win a Cup (or two) here, but I am also sure he told Yzerman he is "open" to be moved because why not win a Cup sooner? This is all just my interpretation of this, I just cannot wait to see the return for Bertuzzi (if dealt) with all the 1st's being thrown around so far!

All eyes on Bertuzzi

I don't think they're trading Suter.

If Babcock came back it'd be back to "veterans get the spot." You wouldn't see Edvinsson for 5 years.

Stecher and new guy should be in IMO. I'm glad Jakub is back.

Oh ok. I just didn't see you mention him in a trade like Staal and Leddy.

You forgot Stecher