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I think with McKee back there, Kronwall may grow a backbone again...

Maybe at the risk of losing Miller or Eaves or sending Andersson back to GR...but I think Andersson is starting to find his way now and besides, I really don't think Babs would play him too often...IMO

If anyone can justify Franzine earning his $3.9M with his lazy lackluster play...then Tootoo more than earns his $1.9M pay. He was brought in for a reason, a role, he is filling it perfectly and giving 110% every night, night after night... I hope he signs another contract after this one.... Let me ask all of you Tootoo doubters...do you think Kronwall is earning his contract right now? How about Quincey? Sammy? White? Cola? I think if anyone is earning his money, its Tootoo for sure!

Honestly, I don't care if he ever plays another game this year and hope he gets bought out next year... That line combo would be very interesting to watch! Then you could have Dats-Z-Brunner back together... Dats-Z-Brun Tart-Fil-Nys Cleary-Helm-Bert Tootoo-Andersson-Abby Miller/Eaves Not a bad healthy lineup on paper... On topic though, I think Holland and Co. should just wash their hands to Sammy...they did it to Hatcher and they did it to Modano. Sometimes, things just don't work out....sorry Sammy, just business...

While I hope he doesn't top $5M per...I definitely don't see him at less than $3M. That is just poop talk. If he gets $3.5M - $4M that would be great, because if Holland does the right thing and buys out Bert and Sammy, trades Q there is plenty of cap room to re-sign Brunner, Smith, Lashoff, Filppula and Andersson along with courting a Sniper for $7M+ and another D-Man (Douglas Murray) for $4M+... Even if Howard got $4.5M that would all still work.

That was on toipic....Red Wings Future... Ouellet, Sproul, McKee... I also can't wait for Sheahan to come up permanantly... I really look forward to seeing the entire 2012 draft class. There really isn't one pick that I am dissatisfied with... Frk, Athanasiou, McKee, DeHaas, Bodin & Paterson. With McCoullum losing ground, M-Raz set to be in Detroit in a couple of season's, Jake Paterson was a great pick to keep GR on the map. Can't say enough about Martin Frk and Andreas Anthansiou they bring much needed elements that the Wings are missing (or currently wasting time expecting some guys here to fill) and I hope to see those two guys sooner than later. James DeHaas just happens to be one of the best young D-men prospects right now, he is already 6-2 and 197lbs. I expect him to top 210lbs before he makes the jump to the NHL (and he will.) What can you say about MIke McKee? Huge, mean, snarly, enforcer, "Don't f*** with my teammates" d-man! I do think that Bodin is going to be one of those black-sheep picks that everyone says how much of a genius Holland can be. Let's just hope he learns to use that huge bodyto his advantage! Looking in the nearer future, I am excited to see players like Jarnkrok and Jurco make a splash. If you look over the top 10 prospects we have, excluding M-Raz and Andersson who are already NHL ready, there isn't one person that I am not excited for! I just hope they get their shots soon! Which means dumping some folks soon. They say that Ferraro is starting to turn that corner and rounding out to be a legit NHL prospect...bring him on! I will take Sheahan and Ferraro as soon as next season!

"...not much going on today, kids are in school, laundry is done, garbage is out....there is a good movie on AMC I haven't seen in a long time. I think I will just stay in the sweat pants and Franzen around the house all day..."

screw Kindl and Q.... If we traded Kronwall... Ericsson - Smith Lashoff - Sproul Ouellet - McKee I still would love Dekeyser here as well!

Dude, they weren't doing any better with Bert, Franzine and Smith in the lineup...Only Helm is the one we miss. The couple of games Sammy played he was slow as tar. It's not like they were tearing the league up with Franzine playing...this is actually a better team with Tatar, Andersson and Nyquist, than with Bertuzzi, Sammy and Franzine... Let Holland hide in his office until all are healthy....he won't make a deal now or ever because "PLayer X is our deadline acquisition..." and when they continue to stink and miss or barely make the playoffs only to lose in the 1st round, they'll get a nice 1st round pick only to trade it for a garbage player or waste in on Haken Looben while Ryan Pulock is sitting right there at #17...God forbid Holland gets a shot at Seth Jones and picks Hok Ptew instead....My jugular vein may explode!!

I think Holland is looking for a new way to circumvent the CBA in order to give Cleary $7M a season...

Yes, I do believe that fits. Kronwall has be Kronwalled in his head....

"Franzen, Cleary, Bertuzzi, Samuelsson, Quincey, Kindl....it's the way of the future....the way of the future....the way of the future..." Holland best get this team turned around with some sort of shakeup....hell, if you cannot trade players, sit them, bench them, dress them then sit them on the bench the entire game....for f***s sake Holland, get a move on! I want to wake up in the morning and read "Wings trade Filppula + for _________ in a blockbuster deal!"

I just wonder if Babcock is told to follow protocol and play the vets first over the rookies...I know he loves Cleary, and that is fine, but everyone is watching the same game here....Tatar is far superior to Cleary...he deserves top minutes. It just seems like Holland tells Babcock who and where to play them... Tatar, Andersson, Nyquist and Sheahan should ALL be here... playing heavy minutes... In that case, he is screwed then...as are we. I guess he is locked in his office counting turns of a milk carton top....because if he knew what kind of team he had then, and they are underperforming even moreso, he still has yet to get something done...maybe he has tried, maybe nobody wants any of our players not named Datsyuk or Zetterberg....

Next game line combos please: Fil - Dats - Tatar Tootoo - Zetterberg - Brunner Miller - Andersson - Abby Eaves - Emmerton - Cleary PLEASE!!! Babcock, get you head out of your ass!!!!!!!!1111

Nothing is going to happen....Holland will NEVER trade what he feels are his best players...Fil or Franzen. He will never admit to the mistake he made keeping Franzine or acquiring Quincey. There will be no trades, except maybe a mid-level prospect for an over the hill player... Holland is in a pickle...he has to know how bad this team is, even without injuries...but does he really? Does he really think that when healthy that this is an actual Stanley Cup contender? a Playoff team? I just think that Holland's string is coming unraveled and he is playing Howard Hughes in his office at the Joe...he just keeps saying, "Franzen, he's the way of the future...he's the way of the future...he's the way of the future..."

Ya, Kronwalled is there too....

We all prefer the fuzzy math and trickle down economics....it's more like 10!

Uh.....I would have to say I think you are....right.....ugh. No, I do not want Hudler back...just shed Cleary, Franzinem Q and K and then all will be good! I cannot believe Babcock putting Cleary out there...WTF does Danny have on him?

Shut your mouth when you're talking to us! Babcock is that you?

That is what they deserve for Babcock putting Cleary out there.... I was just about to say it should be Datsyuk-Tatar then follow that with Zetterberg-Brunner... Why the frick would Kronwall go for the check at that moment? Idiot took out his own player and Ericsson played the shot instead of the pass and left Weber alone... they should have to forgeit the point for that garbage in OT... Babs should be fired.... Dats - Cleary to start OT? Really? REALLY? We as Wings fans are being robbed.

...and so goes the Wings season...it's about time someone post's The Price is Right loser sound byte.

Well how fitting and deserving was that goal? The Hockey Gods shined down on Tootoo right there!

This game is a glaring example of why we need a sniper... D is pretty solid, goalie making saves when asked to....but scoring gone.

All that hard work by Dats on that shift and he looks up and all he has is Cleary to pass to...and we all saw what he did with it there...he sucks.

Nah, we don't need Tatar on Dats line....Babs is a joke.